For those of you with mp3 players may i suggest the following revised
tracklist.
1.Lost
2.Labryinth
3.Before 3
4.This Morning
5.Anniversary
6.(i dont know whats going) on
7.Taking off
8.Truth Goodness and beauty
9.The promise
10.Going Nowhere
This would be an album that i would love.
The other five songs are no loss. The Cure have made an album that has
received good press reviews, however it
is not special in a way that many long term cure fans had hoped. There
are far fewer moments when you find yourself
open-eyed and wide-jawed. The spine tingles are fewer. But it is a
good album and grows on you with time. What
a shame the production is so raw and the lack of signature guitar
sound and low key keyboards take away from
the overall atmosphere.
Perhaps this is the album that had to be
made to keep the music community interested. Please Robert, next time
think of only one word "ATMOSPHERE".....make
us true cure fans happy and do what only the cure are capable
of.
- PJ Foster
I wont bore everyone with the same views most
have expressed here, cause I share a majority of 'em!
I produce electronica now, but the boys
have always (since age 15 ) been a huge influence overall. They need the
atmosphere back in the mix - the depth and
the richness. Either get Boris (where are you??) back in there, or
imagine Budgie (Siouxsie) behind the kit?!
I think we're all missing the solid beats here...
As for production, picture what Brian Eno
could have achieved, it would have been more 'them' than a
sub-standard rawk production... I'm biased
towards Rogers side, but please more keys next time guys!!
Its proof that "Disintigration" cannot be
topped, otherwise, its great to have them here still.
- Roh
I'll get out the negatives surrounding this cd
first: the US version is so lacking (buying the US CD, CD/DVD,
Japanese, Vinyl & Randall's Island +
Camden shows have put a hurt on my Teacher's Summer off wallet) I
couldn't believe it ended so soon, I'm not
thrilled with the festival type tour and as for NEVER, well I don't know
what to say...
But after listening to the Japanese CD,
the CD seems much more alive & full, weird how 3 more songs could
do
that & listening to the CD with headphones
in a cold candle-lit room made it really come alive. The recording of it
took some time to get used to, my top 2
favs are Disintegration & Wish, the rich multi layering tracking is
not
there (Wish using 48 tracks!!), but there
are some interesting sounds that take time to hear, its in your face
live,
they really ROCK OUT on some songs, Roberts
screaming his heart & lungs out & the WAH-WAH mania is
great. I never totally got into Jason, but
he is now THE DRUMMER of THE CURE. His playing & intensity is
jaw dropping & after I saw him beating
the shit out of the drums & his firsts blew me away & ROSS was
sooo
psyched & getting in his face!!! It's
a shame no one has really commented on the recording process, alternate
tunings (TEOTW on Leno, Robert was in Drop
D I believe) & pure intensity ~ Wishing for another Disintegration,
or whatever isn't gonna happen & if
it did, people would still complain
LOST-great opener, pain, despair & anger
& starting with Ross throwing a metal chair @ Robert (OPEN-ish)
LABYRINTH-playing with the Eastern flair
again, very HYPNOTIC, TRANCEY, killer bass (If Only We Could
Sleep Tonight-ish)
B43-I LOVE IT! Summer, whispering, wishing
& wanting ~ awesome bass line
TRUTH GOODNESS & BEAUTY - this made
the album for me ~ Sounds like the vocals were recorded in a metal
room (in a good way), the drum patterns
are amazing, the return of the Bass VI ~ the most beautiful & vulnerable
song ~ reminds me of a LOST WISH
TEOTW- cool tune! MOOG!!!!!! I love how
Simon carries the melody & how they all start the song
Anniversary - return of the dream-scape
sound ~ great song ~ it floats
US or Them - coulda been on Bloodflowers
musically ~ amazing vocal energy
FAKE - love it ~ BASS VI, synth ~ new wave
80's
alt.end - ahhh simons sounds good ~ slide
guitar, some cool guitar sounds
IDKWGO - didn't dig it much till the chorus,
my girlfriend insists it sound Smash Pumpkins, grew on me & love
the KM3 vocal howls!! cool percussion
too
Taking Off - same setup as JLH, but I don't
think its a rip ~ I dig it (reminds me of WISH B-SIDE)
NEVER.... shoulda got past demo stage
The Promise - EPIC ~ WAH F*cking WAH!!!!!
Going Nowhere - BEAUTIFUL ~ PICTURES of
YOU chime intro ~ Sound soo much like a LOST WISH
I think the songs will be even better live ~
8/10 Black eyeliners from me!!!!
- Joey Lomnicky
Three weeks in the studio produces this kind of
album. Though I have no shred of doubt for the level of love Ross
has for the band, he simply isn't capable
of producing the band to its best alone. And the reason is simple:
This record has no production dynamics.
I can understand why Robinson thinks its great.
It sounds great if you look at it from the perspective of someone
who makes 90's albums. 90's albums are all
very flat-sounding, over-compressed and bland. They're meant for
radio play. To hear Robert say that if we
don't like this album, it is to say that we don't like the Cure, well
its
offenseive. Nice try, but wrong, and by
this stage, we seem to know the Cure better than he does.
There is something I have always loved about the
band that has been missing through the course of these last
three albums. The band used to have a very
rich, layered sound. It is painfully neglected again on this album,
despite the best attempts of the rock producer
(and yes, it makes a difference). I'm not a fan of what Roger brings
to the band on most occasions, but he is
criminally buried in this mix. If you have a band that is a five-piece,
an
album's sound should reflect it. In most
cases, this album sounds like it could have been made by a three-piece
with half-arsed overdubs.
Some of the songs benefit from the live-in-the-studio
approach, and the immediacy and passion of "The Promise,"
"Never" and "Lost" could have ended up being
muddled crap if left to Dave Allen, but its a small percentage of
the album when compared to the other 12-13
songs. Just because a production approach works for one song
doesn't mean it will work for the rest of
the album. At best this album sounds like a great collection of demos.
If
Robert insists on working with Robinson
again, he'd be wise to give Dave Allen the co-producer's chair.
But I don't know if even that could fix the problems
here. Though Robinson shares most of the blame, Smith must
share in it quite a bit. The bottom line
is Robert's songs are uninspired and half-cooked. They're decent
facsimiles of Cure songs, but it seems on
each song, Robert does something to get in the way of them, whether it
be some grating refrain, or sending a flat
note off into the stratosphere (really belting out a shit note doesn't
sell it any more than if you just sing it
into your shoes). This is the first album that I haven't loved at least
one
song. And the first that has made me want
to program out songs - I've hated "The End of the World" from the
first listen, and "(I Don't Know What's
Going) On" is my new least favorite Cure song of all time.
On the plus side, I commend Jason and Simon for
turning in brilliant performances. But I suppose, in the end, it
would be more appropriate for Robert to
have said "If you don't like my performance on this record, then you
don't like the Cure." And I suppose if I
were to take him at his word, then maybe it would be best that I not listen
to the Cure anymore. I've been in love with
this band for two-thirds of my life. But now, in a way, it feels like
meeting up with one of your ex-girlfriends
and expecting to get the same magic out of the relationship that was
there when you were at the height of your
love. Once its gone, its damn near impossible to find it again. And its
clear Robert doesn't have any idea of how
to come across. At least no more than I do of how to get next to the
new sound.
I own everything (barring third-world imports)
they've ever released, including singles. This record, I downloaded
it in advance of the release date and hung
onto the mp3s (320 kps), since I refuse to buy an abridged album (fuck
you Geffen). I doubt I'll buy it at all
now. I may just trash the mp3s if I ever wish to buy a $35 import from
Japan,
but its a lot of money for a less-than-stellar
album.
And damnit, I really wanted to love it.
- Michael Bird
This album is top two Cure Albums. My favorite
will always be "Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me", unless something
better comes around.
The new mood is like a perfect jaded feeling,
which is perfect for the current state of things in general.
Bloodflowers has been completely demolished
which is what you want in general. The Trilogy had to end because
it was simply to heavy to continue. If the
Cure did another album like Bloodflowers, Cure fans would be
emotionally drained. In fact, "The
Cure" appears to be the most upbeat album. A lot of the "In Between Songs"
are really smooth, and nostalgic. In fact
Robert Smith has captured that Nostalgic feeling that is not meant to
be
prevalent in other albums. If you listen
to the B-sides of "Standing on a Beach" you like the music, but they don't
seem to referring to anything. You could
just ignore the words and the music in-itself takes you to some past
period, which doesn't feel like it is occurring
in this, or any other lifetime.
That's the same feeling with this album. First
your living the story of a "Stranger in Love". Its kind of "like
an
animal" because it simply begins anew. It
doesn't really matter why, you just sense it. You feel like your "trapped
in your face". What would it feel like to
see "the other side of the door". This is the most existential
album of
them all, but in the literal sense. This
is probably the most literal Cure album, yet the symbolic structure is
still
greater than ever. Were all fooled by the
wall of symbolic structure, so nobody really knows what he is talking
about. Everybody thinks Robert Smith is
really dark and poetic, which seems so wonderful. But nodody sees the
underlying representational structure. They're
all "Lost" because they just don't see it underneath.
Could "Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me" be duplicated.
"The Cure" is really just "The Head on the Door"
transformed and transfixed. "The Promise"
is just really referring back to "The Kiss".
The album ends after "Anniversary" and then begins
again with "Us and Them". So there are two phases to the
album. "Us and Them" is like what the Cure
would sound like as an industrial band, but of course one song is
enough. You only currently need one song
like "The Kiss". Two would be redundant.
The best song on the album is "Lost". Every other
girl just represents the sad fact that I'm really just living the
story of a "stranger in love". What the
hell else is it supposed to be. If it were concrete then it would make
sense,
but it isn't.
The second best song is "Labyrinth" which fools
you with the eastern sound, and then the "wah wah" guitars
settle in.
The third best song is "Anniversary". This song
sort of sets the tone for the rest of the album. This is the jaded
song that makes the rest sound better, and
brighter.
I really like the intensity of "alt.end", and
"never". Really intense. Some of the best literal lyrics "I've ever
seen".
The new album is building us up to "The Mixed Up" set of albums. The Cure is eternally revisiting the past.
- Rich Loewy
General Overview is that a quick recording has
sacrificed some of what made the Cure as a band great. Vocal
overdubs and cool studio effects are lost
in the up front rock style that Robinson brings to the table. Thusly,
most
songs lack the depth and dreaminess of the
Cure's best work. Roger's keyboard lines sound amazing, but they
are buried so deeply beneath the hard, thick
guitars and drums that it's damn near impossible to pick them out.
The lyrics are wanting. Robert used to be
able to throw out songs with the most amazing imagery seemingly
without effort. As he's gotten older, his
lyrics have taken a turn for the direct and, unfortunately, pedestrian.
Alot
of these tracks wouldn't have even made
it as B-Sides in the past. Robert seems to want to scream to prove that
he's still alive, instead of singing. He
was at half the vocal energy on Disintegration and sounded twice as vital.
Of
course, comparing this album to Disintegration
is like comparing frogs and goats, so I'll stop there. Overall, some
good ideas, a few great ones, but
too many bad ones. Not an album I'll be listening to past August, probably.
This review is for the complete, 15 song vinyl version.
5/10
Lost- Could be another great opener if the synth wasn't buried and the lyrics weren't so boring.
Labyrinth- Good retread of Burn, but I'll just listen to Burn.
Before 3- Pretty, wistful, sad. This is more like it.
Truth, Goodness And Beauty- Did a song just play?
End Of The World- Catchy as hell but not up to their best singles. Ooo--eee--ack!
Anniversary- Beautifully reminiscent of Last Dance. Finally, I hear Roger.
Us Or Them- Good passion, but lacking a good hooky guitar line.
Fake- As in, faking a bad 80s disco cheese song?
Alt.end- I like this! In Your House's music with
Play For Today's lyrics. A good good good bass line and Robert
sounding...spunky.
(I Don't Know What's Going) On- Despite the fact
that it doesn't ever really boil over, it's still a nice, wistful,
danceable Cure pop song.
Taking Off- Needs better keyboards throughout the song, and a solo! Sounds like a retread.
Never- There is nothing to say about this song.
The Promise- A good, epic doomspeaking song. Nice guitar licks.
Going Nowhere- This is it! Oh so beautiful. The only song on the album I want to play over and over and over.
This Morning- A nice song, but not as good as all the hype I heard. Middling.
- Poodelee
Just got the Japanese version of "thecure"
the extra three songs do make up the difference where "never" and
I don't know" lack in integrity to the album.
Taking off could have been better than advertised by some
reviewers. Going nowhere is an instant
classic.
Overall out this whole album the only song
that sounds like a whole new type of material is "LoS T." I think
Robert should maybe had explored more of
that type of material or maybe he did and did not fit the album. Over
all this new album sounds like Kiss Me Kiss
me and Wish demos.
I do appreciate a whole new album but I am bummed
about the festival concert decision. All I wanted was three
hours of cure for a real concert experience.
- Ignacio
I am getting my review of the latest album out
later than what I had wanted, but better late than never. In my
reading of the other fan reviews, I noticed
people seem to be drawn along two extremes: They either love or hate
this new album. Not many reviews fall somewhere
in between. In my opinion, The Cure is one of their better
albums. I remember when "FIIL" was a hit
single, the first Cure album I bought was WMS when it was released
in '96. I read in the Uncut article that
WMS was the last album in which Robert worried about what people
thought, which I think is great!
I am not going to do a blow-by-blow of each song
because I think that is trite. I agree with Bruno in that the
drums on this album are very prominent,
namely on "Us or Them." I loved what Robert does with his vocals in
these tracks, which were mosre passionate
than recent albums. I noticed that some of you expressed strong
dislike for "WMF" from the last album because
some of these tracks reminded you of that song. I was happy to
be reminded of WMF because that was one
of my top three favorite tracks on the BF album. Some people had an
issue with the length of "Promise." Longer
tracks don't bother me, but then I am also a Type O Negative fan.
Some say Robert is yelling, well, as a fan
of L7, yelling doesn't bother me. Robert did not sound like he was
yelling to me anyway. I think it's a mistake
to compare this album (or any album by any band) to its predecessors.
I prefer to look at each album individually.
I agree with Robert: If you don't like it, then you don't like The
Cure!
- Tempest
Fuck you Ross, What did you do to Robert?
This album really sucks. God dammit, I've never criticized thecure
before. For 15 years I've been a devoted
fan, I was there defending thecure during the WMS era, I defended
Bloodflowers to the death. However
I can't sit here and pretend that "thecure" is a good album when
it's not. I
have only the stupid U.S version, and I
love "Lost" but he rest of the album is really not that intersting.
I noticed
it's taking way too much effort for the
masses to say anything good about this album.
I know Robert said "if you don't like this
album, you don't like the cure" nonsense, Robert is just being a
salesmen. This album sucks, however
I still like previous albums. What a fucken disappointment.
In all seriousness, it's a cool album. I
just feel (never, I don't know wgo, taking off), are average songs that could
have been better. I saythat because the
rest of the album is in a higher level. I guess what gets
me ticking is the
Japanese and us. track difference, that'
what really burns me up.
- Debunker1975
japanese version (definitive, in my opinion.)
1. lost. strong and passionate. robert sounds
alive again. but why are roger's synth lines buried so deep? this is a
problem throughout the album
2. labryinth. very dark and pornography-ish. a good one-two punch
3. before 3. one of my faves. wistful and sad, with great guitar melodies
4. truth goodness and beauty. ok guitars, but it doesn't really go anywhere
5. end of the world. i like it more and more.
actually reminds me of the head on the door era, except for those
damned ooo-eee-ooos
6. anniversary. nice and dark. reminds me of last dance
7. us or them. robert certainly sounds pissed. but it's a bit too contrived. there aren't enough good guitar lines
8. fake. weird. almost sounds like some sort of early 80s synth band. doesn't make much of an impression
9. alt.end. surprisingly, this is one of my favorites
so far. like a re-write of play for today, mixed with secrets.
robert's vocal is awesome
10. (i don't know what's going) on. perfect pop song. really sounds like it could have come from kiss me
11. taking off. aside from the fact that it sounds
like just like heaven and friday i'm in love's baby, it's still a
great pop song. needs a good piano instrumental
though
12. never. this song sucks
13. the promise. really harsh, but i love the guitars. reminds me of end, though not lyrically
14. going nowhere. the quitessential cure song.
i'd love it if they made an album of songs just like this. this song
is utterly amazing. roger is on fire
a good album. them's my two cents.
- Scott Otto
This latest album lacks songs, tunes, melodies,
rhythms, ideas. None of these songs should have made it past the
demo stage. Did no-one break the trance
of the group therapy sessions and say 'Hey, Robert, this is a bit
lacking?'. It's the worst reprise of recent
Cure cliches I can think of. Being name-checked by recent bands
doesn't mean a thing in itself, is no guarantee
of integrity ordirection. You just have to take each song on merit. I
find it all lazy, lyrically empty, musically
indifferent. Robert talks a good album in interviews (he always has done)
and is bright, but I don't want Wittgenstein's
Tractatus, just songs. On a musical level, it's not very good. Killing
An Arab has more guitar kick than this whole
album, vintage guitars or not. It has that disastrous feel of going
through the motions, saying you should feel
such-and-such, but not re-creating the feeling. At a basic level songs
are just songs and either they have something
or they dont. This strikes me as passive, monotonous, a mall-rats
idea of what the Cure might be - it lacks
personality, structure, skill, passion. Look at TIB, Seventeen Seconds,
Faith, Pornography...then this? To which
the obvious answer is - groups move on, things change...yes, but you still
want good songs, whatever the direction.
This strikes me as lazy and frivolous, oddly patronising in a way. No-one
seems to have questioned Robert's judgement
- all too entrenched, too frightened? I find it all woolly, but above
all, lazy, lacking. There are no songs.
Bummer.
- Ben Scammell
I won't post a review of the album, there are
already so many... There's just on thing I'd like to point out: nobody
mentioned the drums on this album. Boris
was a very good drummer, sure, Jason's work was great on the last two
albums but honestly, Jason is THE musician
on "The Cure". His parts are extremely creative, powerful,
difficult... I don't think there's another
Cure album with such a high level of performance. I remember posting a
review when Bloodflowers was released and
I wanted to put a stress on that (since very few people seemed to
appreciate his work on WMS). Post
this or don't, but I really think that Jason deserves a sincere tribute
:)
- Bruno
Now unlike most people, I came onboard with The
Cure in the later years. "Show" and "Wish" were my first real,
significant exposures to the band.
I had heard of their propencity for laborous, gloomy dirges, but I really
didn't
get a good sense of it with those records.
After working backwards into their catalouge I find that, while I love
their music, those long winded numbers are
usually counted amongst my least favorite. I found "The Cure" to
be
a decent balance between atmosphere and
straight songcraft while raising the bar in terms of rawness that I have
not really heard in the band to a great
degree. After seeing some live performace clips and listening to
the
"Show" record, I find I like the live incarnation
of the band much more than I do the studio work. Classics such
as "Just Like Heaven" and "Pictures Of You"
have a tendancy to pop much more when not hampered down by
massive amounts of reverb and atmospheric
delays. This album strikes a great balance, being essentially a
spruced up live recording in a studio environment.
In particular I enjoyed the following songs for the following
reasons:
Lost - This song is just a progressive frenzy
of noise and screaming that has much more subtlety and craft than
other songs like it. I find the pure,
venting nature of the song to be very appealing. I particularly
liked that the
power of the song was not hidden behind
layers of guitar and synths. The less is more approach was most
assuradley the proper choice.
Before Three - Some people have ragged on this
tune, but I don't really see the reason for it. It is far from a
catchy little pop number, but never falls
into that area of being bloated and overbearing. It's another well
crafted
emotional expression. I appreciate
it's ability to maintain a consistant atmosphere and mood while keeping
a
driving energy. The song never lingers
or wallows. It also posesses a certain melancholy about it that does
not
interfere with it's energy.
The End Of The World - Out of all of the songs
I feel this one actually fits the tone of the record the least.
It
doesnt have the apparent dark edge of some
of the other songs, nor does it have the moodiness, but it is
significant for it's fun factor. It's
a well crafted song that is fun to sing along with, at least for me.
(I Don't KNow What's Going) On - My only issue
with this song is that it just doesnt ever really break away and
go running. Again, it's a good example
of a driving song with a consistantly maintained atmosphere that never
becomes overbearing. The chorus parts
are uplifting in their own way, although I think this song could have
benefitted from some additional production
work. Has a kind of Beatles feel to it I havent heard in the bands
work before.
That's all I'm actually going into, but I think
you get the idea. After a record like "Bloodflowers", to do any
more big pieces would have been ridiculous.
The Cure are a multi-faceted band that has more dimension to it
than most others, and has never allowed
even those who love them to pigeonhole them. I also believe that,
at this
stage in their career, it's a bolder choice
to go for a more stripped down sound and songwriting approach than to
try and replicate what many people consider
their "signature sound" I beleive Robert's comment regarding
people who dont like this album not liking
The Cure comes from his belief that this album gets back to the roots of
what The Cure was before they became "Goth
Superstars"; a smart rock band. It is, perhaps, plausible to
suggest that many people are attracted to
the doom and gloom aspects of the band while not really giving full
credit to the other side. I find I
enjoy songs like "Inbetween Days", "A Letter To Elise", "High", and "Six
Different Ways" for their simple and effective
songwriting and fun to listen to nature, while still maintaing a level
of intelligence not present in most pop
music. While I'm sure they are not done with teh dirges and gloom,
they
also didn't start out that way, so at this
point I'm content to just let the boys entertain me and keep me guessing
as to what's next to come.
- Michael Schinke
I've been a major fan since 'Disintegration' and
so having finally got hold of my copy of 'The Cure' on Friday, it's
been on my CD player ever since over the
weekend. I haven't fully made my mind up on it yet but, here are
some thoughts after several listens...
"Lost" is a great idea and puts The Cure exactly
where they should be - making edgy uncomfortable music that
conveys the unnerving feeling Robert was
trying to get across lyrically.
"Labyrinth" is the PERFECT second song with an
awesome bass groove. Simon is the root of the band musically
more than ever these days, building on his
great work on 'Bloodflowers' and, with Robert's FX'ed-up vocal this
has a sound not unlike early Ride or the
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club - one of the best bands around right now
in my view (too bad they're not on the Curiosa
bill).
"Truth, Goodness & Beauty" - This is the one
and only time I could ever say Jason's drumming is comparable
with Boris's - wonderful fast panning in
the mix by Ross and a stunning lyric by Robert. This IS what The Cure
can mean to me.
"The End Of The World" - OK, not a bad single
but in my book not really The Cure - sounds more like the
Smashing Pumpkins or even Weezer to me and,
being cynical for a second, I'd say a clear effort to play to the
American teenie audience whom the band seem
to be counting on these days (look at the bloody video - hardly
Crawley is it??) ... there are still a few
of us in the UK who dig The Cure, Robert, remember us! :-)
I agree with other postings that "Anniversary"
marks a far too belated entry into the album's running order by
Roger but boy does he deliver when he joins
the party, proving again why he is far and away the greatest
keyboardist The Cure have ever had, generating
a monumental soundscape for Robert to sing into.
"Us Or Them" - wonderful bass again and tremendous
to hear Robert truly going for it again vocally - haven't
heard him do that on record since the 80s.
I hate the Bush administration too by the way... :-)
"alt:end" - Can't understand why others don't
like this - clearly a simple pastiche of their earlier work although
the handclaps may be a tad too much of a
rehash of "Let's Go To Bed" (more on the drumming in general to
follow...). But after the "In Your Room"
style guitar intro there are some absolutely delicious chord changes and
I'd say this has to be the grooviest song
on the album.
"The Promise" - Gets better with every listen.
From a guitar point of view it doesn't have quite the same level of
Perry's 'riffary' (which I had been kind
of expecting) as some of his 'Bloodflowers' work ("Watching Me Fall"/
"39") but truly emotive and reminds me of
Robert's stunning solo through "The Kiss" on the Trilogy DVD -
which incidentally I would say is the most
organic playing of the electric guitar I've heard since Jimi Hendrix.
"Going Nowhere" - Beautiful. Roger's piano is
so melancholic but so uplifting at the same time, always one of the
band's strengths. Nice to hear the 6 string
bass get a decent run out again too. A nice understated end to the
album.
Right - now the criticisms...
Firstly we all know the album was recorded in
just a few weeks and completely live, but seriously I think they
could have spent a bit more time on post-production.
At times it sounds seriously under-produced, almost
demo-ish and whilst this may appeal to the
rootsy elements of the crowd, I can't believe that Robert is one of
them. Remember he is the man who gave us
'Seventeen Seconds' - surely one of the best produced, best
SOUNDING, most coherent albums of all time.
Secondly - all the other songs I've not mentioned.
All pap. Sorry. I just can't stand the contrived 'happy guitar
pop' Robert seems to have repeatedly spewed
out with over the last decade... "Mint Car", "Round & Round &
Round", "Cut Here". Seriously, how can anyone
put these alongside 'Just Like Heaven', 'Hot Hot Hot!!!",
"Close To Me" (and all the others). If it
ain't up to that standard it shouldn't be on a Cure album, it's that
simple.
And finally... the drums. I'm a drummer myself
(if you're interested, see my band's site, http://www.Colvex.com)
and if there is one thing I have learnt
over the years, it's to keep it simple. The drums are there for just one
reason - to emphasize rhythm. With Jason's
constant clattering around the kit and seeming inability to stop
thrashing away at his crash cymbals I'm
sad to say you completely lose all the thrust of many of these songs
("Truth, Goodness..." being a notable exception).
It's about time someone sat him down and explained this to him -
the reason so many of us loved Boris's drumming
is that, although at times it was fantastically complex, it was so
well looped and played like a metronome
that you couldn't help but feel moved by it. The fills on "Just Like
Heaven" for example are SO simple but genius
at the same time because we all remember them and they don't
distract from the full fat punchy rhythm.
The reason Simon's playing is so noticeable these days I think is because
the drums are so all over the place - he's
having to basically be a one man rhythm section and, to his eternal
credit, just about pulls it off. Sorry Jason,
you're a nice feller, but you've GOT to wake up and realize what it's
all
about! Stick on 'the Head On The Door' and
start from there!! To Ross' credit however, this is the best drum
'sound' on record by The Cure since 'Wish'.
Well, apologies everyone for the essay. I've never
written to this site before but because this album is so emotive
I just had to. And that, I guess, is a good
thing... proof that The Cure can still get me going!
- Gavin
Heres another review of the album, though we have
a million already why not add something else, firstly congrats
to Jeff Kovalski who wrote an earlier review
for pointing out some important facts, one: who cares if you don’t
have all 15 tracks, buy another version,
sure its annoying, but I just read on the net that a marine has likely
had
his head hacked off….now theres a real problem!
Get some godamned perspective! And secondly: all the
negative posters on this site, whilst opinions
are great, just stop listening if you hate the band….man so
depressing and despondent to log into this
section and read so many disparaging comments….there I feel better
now….
To the album, I am so in love with this…….I think
its fantastic and that’s not the comment of a sheep either to
those who made some remarks like that previously
about peoples positive postings. Once again the Cure have
tapped into their magic side, I think that
Ross has done something amazing here, you can tell there is real passion
and fire again and I think he has really
helped the band to bring that out. This album is so alive compared to the
sleepy Bloodflowers, which is still wonderful,
but this is like a pop rock on the tongue! I cant think of one song
save “Never” which I don’t love or at the
very least like very much. Needless to say “End of the World” is their
very best pop single in forever, and Ill
be a monkeys uncle if “Taking off” isn’t the contender for the next off
the
album, its f**** amazing, makes me sing
and dance around the room like a cat who’s had its tail trod on. I
personally cannot wait to get the vinyl
version, really want to hear the other three tracks…luckily in NZ we
got
the 12 track version “Going Nowhere” its
so wonderful! Im hoping that they keep working with Ross for the
next
album!
And I honestly do think this is their best album
since Disintegration, I haven’t felt this elated about them since
1989!
- Alastair Ross
I have listened to the "the cure" inttensively
over the last couple of weeks and wanted to throw my tuppence
worth to your review page. Like a lot of
the visitors to the chain of flowers site I have been an avid cure fan
for
years and like one of your previous reviewers
I am also appalled at some of the negative comments about this new
work. The only reason I can think of for
any true cure fan reviewing this album negatively is that you just have
not
listened to it fully and properly yet. I
have to agree that "never" is crap but outside of that one mistake this
is
actually a brilliant recording. I got the
cd and vinyl versions and for anyone who has not heard "this morning"
(extra track on vinyl) you have got to.
Seriously this song is one of the fucking graetest cure moments ever.
I am
not going to do a track by track report
on the album but i would seriously rate it up there with Disintegration,
Pornography, Seventeen seconds and Faith.
So come on people. Turn the fucking thing up relax and enjoy what in
time will be realised as a masterpiece.
Roll on oxegen in Ireland next saturday.
- Mike B.
As much as I like Lost and End of World, in my
opinion, the Album really doesn't get started until Track 5 with
Anniversary. From that point the album seems
to have a direction with the climax being Taking Off. Keys should
have been a tad bit higher on Taking Off
- which would make the song really shine. Is this error on Ross'
part, as
he hasn't had much work with bands that
use keyboards? Maybe not, but they really did this song a disservice
by
keeping the keys too far in the background.
Overall, Robert made an excellent choice in choosing Ross and
jumpstarting a new era for the Cure.
As much a Robert is a master with lyrics/writing
- is it just me, but the words/theme are words we have heard on
previous albums, just in a different arrangement.
Side note: very disappointed in the "making of" disc, although
it was done well they should really give
fans a true feeling of what's it's like in the recording studio - drop
the
music and let us hear what they are actually
talking about.
- Luke LaCasse
After listening to the album (or bits of it) countless
times by now, I can safely declare that the only songs I will
listen to repeatedly are:
Lost -- This song is fucking awesome! It
gets better with every listen (and to think I wasn't impressed on the
first go around).
Labyrinth -- This could have been on Kiss Me Kiss
Me Kiss Me (it reminds me of a cross between "The
Snakepit" and "If Only Tonight We Could
Sleep" musically).
Anniversary -- This has got to be one of the most
powerful songs Robert's written since "Same Deep Water As
You" -- the music is awesome, and Robert's
vocals are perfect.
The Promise -- Classic Cure Epic...worth the price
of the CD alone. Robert sings his heart out on this, and the
band back him wonderfully.
The rest of the songs I skip over most of the
time (I didn't even put "(I Don't Know What's Going) On" and
"Never" on my mp3 player). "Before
Three" and "Us or Them" are the best of the rest. As for the rest,
I
probably won't give them much of a listen.
The album feels so rushed, and at times that's
a good thing, but when it's bad it's really bad ("Never"). Some
of the songs sound as if they need some
more marinating... "Anniversary", great as it is, could have been a
masterpiece.
But to talk of could-have-beens is pointless.
This is the album we were given, and it's severely half-baked. I
have to argue with Robert's stance of, "If
you don't like this you don't like us"... I've loved The Cure for a very
long time, but I was never a fan of most
of the poppy, happy songs, preferring the deep and dark ones over all.
This album has too much filler, which I
have never seen with any of the others -- though maybe it's because,
unlike the others, the truly bad songs on
The Cure are all lumped together (at least on the American version,
which makes sense since most Americans have
shitty tastes in music). I've ordered the Japanese Import, so
I should get that next week and finally
be able to hear most of the other songs. If "This Morning" is as
good as
I hear it is, it'll definitely be worth
waiting for the single after all this. Then I'll do what someone
previously
wrote about: make my own version of the
album.
God bless mp3 technology.
- Woland
I just picked up the new album and have listened
to it several times. The Edith Bunker in me says if I don’t have
anything nice to say I should just clam
up, but really, from a pop perspective it is one of the least satisfying
to
date. As for raw emotion over style it scores
big and is as good as any of the following songs: So What, Give Me
It, Doubt, The Snakepit, and Disintegration.
While it is no schmaltzfest like WMS it seems to have the opposite
effect. Songs like Lost, The Promise, Never
and Us or Them have these bland, noisy, disjointed riffs and there
is a great deal of screaming. Robert Smith’s
voice was an acquired taste for me. When he shouts lyrics like Ian
Mackaye it starts to grate again. The Cure’s
most celebrated goth anthems: 100 years, Charlotte Sometimes,
Faith , Short Term Effect, etc. came with
some very engaging rhythms and chord progressions. There is less of
that here but the same amount of lines like:
I CANT FIND MYSELF!!! and "Death is with us all , we suck him
down with our first breath". The good
lesson of this album is that being depressed ought to feel….well …
……..bad.
- Peter Severy
After listening to "The Cure" several times in
the past few days, I have to say that I’m appalled at some of the
very negative feedback from other fans.
This is a great album. It’s got more heart than anything since
"Disintegration" and more balls since "Pornography."
For a 25 year-old band to be producing something so raw,
emotional and relevant is an amazing accomplishment.
Jason’s drum-work is phenomenal, the interplay of guitars
is brilliant and, in comparison, this album
makes "Bloodflowers" look musty and tired.
Furthermore, I found the DVD to be a fascinating
peek inside the studio. They really did, in fact, record this
album to candlelight. How cool. The moment
where Jason drops a stick and starts hitting the cymbals with his
hand shows the intensity he put into the
work. And Ross is there the whole time, right there in front of Jason,
in
his face, egging him on. There’s a palpable
sense of volatility–you get the feeling Jason wants to jump up and kick
his ass. And that’s what Ross was going
for, that attitude and aggression.
In any case, those fans who just keep hating everything
this line-up creates need to ask themselves why they are
still caring enough to buy the albums at
this point, much less visit a newspage solely devoted to a band they don’t
like anymore. It’s kind of a buzz-kill for
the rest of us. The Cure is not ever going to make "Disintegration,
Volume II." Accept it. Move on. This is
a very different band than The Cure circa 1989 or 1992. But they have
become one hell of a cool fucking band,
and this album is a powerful achievement. I’ve never heard a record that
I liked all the songs on and this one is
no different, but any group that can record something as beautiful and
haunting as "Anniversary" is deserving of
praise in my book.
I can’t wait for the extra songs on my Japanese
version in the next week or two, and no, I don’t give a crap about
there being different album versions either.
There’s a great big world out there with war, famine, and genocide.
Worry about that, people, not about someone
in Belgium listening to a Cure song that you <sniff> <sniff>
don’t
have on your CD.
- Jeff Kovalski
After a lot of listens, I am really disappointed
by the CD, except for the superb "Going Nowhere". I want to be
nice, I really do. The worst Cure
record is miles better than 90% of what's on the radio and I've adored
the band
for 18 years. This isn't awful, but
ugh. Congratulations Ross, you have succeeded in draining the atmosphere,
eccentricity and uniqueness from one of
your favorite groups. The "live" basis is a new direction, and I
thought
the group maybe needed one, but this ain't
it. You can't take the essential musical style away from the musicians,
but apparently you CAN shove them head first
into all that made late-90's corporate alternative so bland. Excuse
me, head last because suddenly it sounds
like they've never taken a drug in their lives.
I hope I'm wrong, but the meanest critical bones
in body will no longer be suppressed. I'm praying that Robert
has some secret masterplan and this is all
some way he is pushing the group toward overcoming the musical
shortfalls of WMS/BF. But I will just
say it: the group has never recovered from losing Porl and Boris.
I think
Robert, Roger and Simon's work has been
just as good as anything in the band's catalogue, including on "The
Cure".
Perry is brilliant at guitar textures (I
could listen to that ghost-scream feedback on the live version of "Open"
forever) but he is just terrible at giving
melodic support to the song. No sense of melodic invention at all.
And Jason! I agree the new CD is his
best work with the band but his style has been wrong for the group all
along
and nearly ruined Bloodflowers for me.
Robert just said on XFM that he's a hard rocker at heart and I agree,
he sounds like he should be playing with
Rush or Van Halen. His drumming always sounds clipped. "The
Cure"
is the first time there's any occassional
real bottom. It just sounds like he's chronically "light", and they
think
turning up his volume will make it "heavy".
Wrong! On top of that there seems to be a big avoidance of
syncopation, or anything sensual or exotic.
It's not like he's incapable of doing rhythm patterns like Boris did on
"High" or "If Only Tonight We Could Sleep",
he finally comes up with some in "Labyrinth" for example, but
instead of making consistently involving
patterns, he tries to throw every sound and rhythm break he can into the
songs. But if you don't have a quality
starting point, that ain't gonna help! Of course, maybe it really
is Robert
who has lost his drumming judgment and is
at fault. Won't make me feel any better. I wish Robert would
bite the
bullet like he did with Lol, admit Jason
was a mistake and fire him, and that Jason would go on to massive success
with some Velvet Revolver type group.
Sorry Jason but that's the big leagues.
With the right players and no Ross it all could
have been gorgeous. As it is I will listen to the quality of the
songwriting and imagine what it should have
sounded like in my head, and hope that maybe this will grow on
me in time.
- Justin Budinoff
Still have to listen to the damn thing MANY more
times but at this stage I'm immensely pleased with a few
minor caveats.
Several of these songs are among the strongest
work they've ever done. Lost is a great opening track, all
escalating vocal rage and dirge and desperation.
Labyrinth may be recycling themes from WMF but I love
the Snakepit vibe and the Burn drums and
the sense of movement and menace and possibility. Before Three is
warm and cuddly and sentimental and makes
excellent use of the word "fucked" and is just a beautiful pop song
that doesn't feel at all forced or fake
(other than the overdone vocal embellishments that Robert feels the need
to place at the end of nearly every song
on this album). I think the lyrics to T&G&B sound like they were
written
by a 15-year-old adolescent with a manic-depressive
s.o., but it's still sweet without being cloying, simplistic but
not dumb. TEOTW was not my favorite song
ever, but it fits very well on the album and is a damn good single.
Anniversary is absolutely perfect, one of
the few cases where the lyrical tone evolves from negative to darkly
warm. Romanticism that acknowledges the
inevitability of pain and disappointment but still winds its way home
in the end. Lament-ish, the very finest.
The second half of the album is not as as strong,
and the tone goes all over the place with angered howling
(Us or Them), melodic cynical anguish with
underlying yearning (Fake), idealized romantic indifference done
with gusto and verve (alt.end), a couple
of slightly overdone and slyly disposable, modestly catchy but mostly
riffless popsongs (On and Taking Off), an
overly repetitive, uncharacteristicly punchly rock tune with screamed
vocals and probably the catchiest hook on
the whole album (Never), and an epic 10-minute howl into the depths
of that same despair he has so eloquently
plumbed before but never quite with this much urgent fury (Promise).
Uneven, but far from sucky. And then there's
the two other endings.
This Morning is absolutely stunning. Yes, Going
Nowhere is a sweetly wistful taste of Disintegration-ish
romanticism, but This Morning is the gutwrenching
ache of all that has fallen apart and all that can never be
gotten back. Those whispered words...just
buy the vinyl and keep resetting the needle. This Morning will haunt
you.
On the downside, there is nothing resembling thematic
coherence on this record after the first few songs. Yes,
they've done that before with KMKMKM and
WMS, but on those albums I still felt there was an overall vibe,
different elements in the same equation.
This just goes all over the place. And not in a "Top" way, either, though
I can see where you could get that (esp.
Us or Them).
And lyrically several of the songs fall into the
same repetition traps that I thought plagued Bloodflowers. You
know, that whole "repeat the whole verse
and chorus but just change a couple of words in each line to their
happy/sad exact opposite." I'm not saying
it's a poor song structure, but it's an overused idea. Otherwise, while
the lyrics are seldom elegant stand-alone
poetry, they are not annoyingly simplistic and the cliches are generally
kept to a minimum.
Every Cure album has a closing song that captures
the overall mood and tone of the album. This one has three
of them, depending on which version of the
album you get. I find it appropriate, as the mood and tone of this
album are SO all over the place.
This is the first Cure album that I don't feel
really reflects much about where Robert's head is these days
(unless he has truly achieved a state of
functional schizophrenia) but instead consists of distinctly different
attempts to evoke particular Cure styles.
While perhaps a bit contrived, it almost always works. Is it perfect?
No.
But it's still by a long shot my favourite
album of the past four years.
- Charles Perry
IS IT A CRIME??
Yes, definietly it is, ...in the discographic
world, and more precisely at Geffen, there is a new Music Ripper....let
me explain...I've just bought the vinyl
version of "the cure" (at fnac geneva)...and I promise you.....when, 3
days
ago I rated the new cure album...I've voted
"somewhere in the middle".....that it's absolutely not true.....it's
one
of the best cure album ever!!! but just
the vinyl version makes it....some hidden gems as "tgab" or "this
morning"........greats songs....between
my favourite cure songs!!!....frankly I can't understandthe reason why
someone did such a stupid thing? which are
the interests??, everyone deserve to get this masterpiece as it should
be, 15 songs this is the real "the cure".....so
disappointed...u can't imagine! these are my vote for each song
Lost 10
Labirinth 8.5
Before Three 9.5
tgab 10
the end of the world 8
Anniversary 9.5
Us or them 7.5
Fake 8.5
alt.end 5
on (I don't....) 9.5
Taking off 6.5
Never 5
The Promise 8.5
Going Nowhere 8.5
This Morning 10
- F.E.
These are my thoughts about the new cure album.
When I listened to it for the first time
I was a bit dissapointed. I think I thought of something totally different.
I
did not get an emotion. Then I got to work,
then came back, really tired and listened to it again and loved it. I
don't know why it did take so long.
I loved Bloodflowers immediatley but here
it took some time and with every listening(got it on tuesday) i grew
more into it.
The first 5 songs plus the last 2 (rest
of the world version) are really cure. I love Lost. Just a perfect beginning.
Labyrinth is perfect as well. before three
catches me. The end of the world is a very good cure single.
Anniversary is perfect, a really sad cure
song. Us or Them. I do like this one like those other real heavy songs
of the cure(give me it, shake dog shake,
shiver and shake...) but the chorus is to much punk and I think the voice
is a bit too strong. alt.end is good as
well, i like singing it. But i hate those next 3 songs. Taking off, a
really bad
clone of just like heaven. (I don't know
what's going) on... Maybe i would have liked it more if it were on kiss
me.
It doesn't fit in here. Never, doesn't tell
anything to me. The promise is a mixing of The Kiss, Carnage Visors
and the snakepit, lyrics are great although
I think the screaming of robert during the end of the song is one more
screaming too much on the album. Going Nowhere
is perfect but a little short. Very sad one. like the lyrics so
much.
All in all i have too say that I can't wait for
the vinyl version.
Everybody says this morning is very good.
And i also want to hear truth,goodness & beauty. Hope they are a
little slower. because although i like most
of the new album i think the balance what robert was talking about
isn't in this album, too much rock. So I
hope the vinyl version is a bit more balanced.
In Conclusion: THEY STILL CURE ME!
- Martin Pieters
I bought it yesterday afternoon. It was
released here in Mexico and all the morning I felt realy exited.
I didnt
played it in my car. In the way home
I bought some wine. I sat down on my living room, insert the CD in
the
stereo, pour some wine in a glass, relax
and start listening.
I drank the hole glass when Before Three started.
I hated it, I was not feeling the music, or the words, or
anything. The comparisions with other albums,
with other songs, even with other bands started.
But I love The Cure, I´ve been loving them
since I was 13, and Im 30 now. So I play the CD again, and again, and
again. And I started to like it, more
and more every time. Is not the best, at least yet, but its very
good. Its
different, that is a fact, still Cure but
different. There are songs that promise a lot. The only thing
that for me
that I think is a fact is that the lyrics
are repetitive (sometimes the same as in other songs), even though the
style
is fresh and modern.
My album preferences:
Disintegration, Faith, KMKMKM, Pornography,
Bloodflowers, The Cure, Wish, THOTD, WMS, The Top,
Seventeen Seconds, Three Imaginary Boys,
Japanese Whispers
I hope Mr Smith will do a favor to the third country
in the world that buys more Cure CD's and come to the
biggest city of the world (Mexico City)
and play a few concerts. He forgot that the world is not only Europe
and
the US.
And as I agree tha Never is terrible, for me the worst song they ever made is The 13th.
In fact, if I had to say which one is the worst song on every album, I would say:
Disintegration--none
Faith--none
KMKMKM--Hey you
Pornography--none
Bloodflowers--Watching me fall
The Cure--Never
Wish--Friday I´m in love
THOTD--Screw
WMS--The 13th
The Top--The Top
Seveteen Seconds--Three
Three Imaginary Boys--So What
Japanese Whispers--Speak my language
and the best:
Disintegration--Disintegration
Faith--The funeral party
KMKMKM--The snake pit
Pornography--The figurehead
Bloodflowers--Out of this world
The Cure--Anniversary
Wish--Frome the end of the deep green sea
THOTD--Push
WMS--Bare
The Top--Shake dog shake
Seveteen Seconds--Secrets
Three Imaginary Boys--Three imaginary boys
Japanese Whispers--Lament
- Fernando
All I can really say is that im glad to know that
this album doesnt sound like a "last album". Im sure most would
agree that Bloodflowers sounded like a "last
album", when you first heard it.
Maybe its just me but here seems to be the sheet
metal sound in Before 3, that there was in Play for Today. I
know you all know what i mean.
Promise is a very good song, Cure top 5 all time in my book. #1 100 Years of course.
One last thing, im sure most would disagree with
me. But Jason Cooper, really makes this album strong, we have
all heard Robert before. But i know i have
never heard anything like what Jason did in this album. He has come
along way in a short time (in Cure years
that is).
- Eric
I heard the VH1 version... heard the Coachella versions, and I was excited about this new disc.
I got it yesterday and have listened to it 5
times and what everyone says is true (about it growing on you). It's
not that I didn't like it at first, it's
just that I didn't expect to like it as much as I do in just a day.
The first time I heard Lost, I was like, "Have
they gone retarded?" Now I can't get enough of the song - it's
always in my head - what an amazing build-up!
Labyrinth is <b>fucking awesome!</b> Before Three just
has
you gliding along and I think The End of
the World is the best single since Lovesong - it's the catchiness.
Anniversary gives you what you want from
The Cure, creepy, weird love. Us or Them - Hellllooooo Simon!
Can't wait to see him playing that with
his mohawk. alt.end - I love this song - mix Let's Go To Bed with
Never
Enough with In Your House and you get a
brilliant sound! (I Don't Know What's Going) On I didn't like at
first,
but now I hear it as a lost song from KMKMKM
- "oo-oooooo!". Taking Off - a great hanging out with your
best friend song. Never - the 3rd
"Yeah, yeah, yeah!" has me addicted and it's a totally new approach -
Rock
on! Never needs no explanation.
Can' t wait to get my Japanese! version in the mail!!!!!
- Marc
Well, I finally had the chance to sit down with
the four "additional" songs on my vinyl copy of "The Cure"
(kudos to my local independant music store
"Pure Pop" in Burlington, VT for actually stocking the vinyl
version!), and I must say, I think they
are my favorite four songs on the entire "album". Pure CURE!
Melodic.....keyboards......acoustic guitars.....wistful
Robert vocals. Each song not out of place on Bloodflowers or
even Disintegration. Again, why these weren't
included on the American CD is a crime. Just goes to show that the
marketing of this album is not directed
toward older fans!! Find the songs by import, vinyl or CD single. You
won't
be disappointed!
- Dave Parker
Goddamn that's nice! That's my words for
the new album. How wonderful is "Anniversary?" I played it
for my
wife (who by some bizarre medical condition
that I'm having looked into doesn't like The Cure) and she cried and
told me she thought it was a beautiful song.
In my opinion that makes it a powerful song. Right now it's my
favorite, but that's subject to change.
"Lost" and "Before Three" were great to hear from the studio (I was at
Coachella and got to hear them there).
I seem to be having the same reaction to this album that I had everytime
I heard something new from Bob and the boys
these past 16 years of fandom. At first, 3-4 songs just grab me
and
I find myself listening multiple times.
Then I force myself to give the whole album some time and of course,
I
end up digging 99.9% of all Cure tracks.
Anyhow, enough ramblings.
- Dave
I have listened to the album 10 times now, the
minimum I allowed myself before posting a review. I think there
are classic Cure moments here, and that
in general the album does a great job at assimilating new Cure sounds
into the old Cure pattern. It’s as though
for each song they take fragments of several Cure songs and weave them
into a new tapestry. It’s very interesting.
Gone are the lengthy intros (depending on your version), and the mixing
can be a little challenging to deal with
sometimes - vocals mixed on top of the songs rather than within the songs.
However, the live recording gives it a raw
energy that is refreshing, if a bit jolting sometimes. Also, the album
suffers a bit from disjointedness - there’s
not that coherent/cohesive feeling as there was on Bloodflowers or
really all other Cure albums. Yet, that
flaw is rather charming - it’s a hodgepodge of loosely related songs that
tell the whole story of the Cure in a fresh
medium.
My thoughts on each song attempting to resist comparisons, and then the Inevitable Comparisons:
The very good
Lost - Melodic punk. Contains what I can only
describe as euphoric anger. I love the trudging start and how it
builds to a potent climax and noisy finish.
I bask in the oppressive power of Rob’s screaming. INEVITABLE
COMPARISON: The dark anger of Porno meets
up with the dissonance of The Top for coffee and cigarettes,
and they decide to make some Cure moonshine,
adding new ingredients for a toxic mix.
Labyrinth - Psychedelic rock with luscious swirls
of Middle Eastern sounds. Break out the incense, Moroccan
tapestry, and, most importantly, the bong!
(That is, if you smoke, which I don’t anymore). I adore this song, and
it has the best lyrics on the album. INEVITABLE
COMPARISON: Wailing Wall and Jimmy Hendrix take a trip
to the North African desert, and jam under
the stars amidst a stand storm.
alt.end - I was prepared to hate this given all
the negativity. But I am truly surprised it’s not more popular. I
love the bouncy bass and and the somewhat
buried psychedelic guitar solo. It’s quirky yet catchy. INEVITABLE
COMPARISON: In your House kidnapped From
the Edge of the Deep Sea and Doing the Unstuck, handcuffed
them to the bed, and made passionate love
to them all night long.
(I Don’t Know What’s Going) On: (I Really Do Love
This) Song. It’s rambling and abstract and quirky and
lyrically repetitive, elements which could
be potential drawbacks, yet mixed together somehow make for an
interesting and rather tasty stew, at least
for me. INEVITABLE COMPARISON: Um, not sure yet....anyone?
Anyone?
Taking Off: Cure-pop at its brightest, yet it
has a sad and even slightly aggressive undertone. I love the naive
romance of the lyrics, and how Rob complements
the upbeat music with a giddy voice. INEVITABLE
COMPARISON: Mint Car collides head on with
JLH; they emerge unharmed from the crash and hitch a ride
with Friday I’m in Love and Inbetween Days.
Before Three - Yeah, it was better live at Coachella,
but it’s still damn good here. The vocals are mixed on top of
the song, which is problematic. But it has
a great dreamy melody, and I love the teenaged energy with which Rob
sings it.
The good
The Promise - Break out the bongs again. An epic
almost-classic Cure trip through the hallucinating halls of
psychedelia again. The trippy bass and clashy
sounds and meandering structure and Rob’s plaintive wail compete
with and complement each other quite charmingly,
if cacophonously. I will probably grow to love it more as time
unfolds. INEVITABLE COMPARISON: The Kiss
call up Led Zeppelin, the Doors and Mogwai and ask them to
come over for a jam session. They come late,
smoke lots of weed, and jam into the early dawn.
EOTW: It sounds better within the context of the
album than it does as a single. It’s good Cure-pop, but the
generic guitars grate on my nerves a bit.
I think it would be top-notch Cure-pop with those distinctive Cure guitars.
INEVITABLE COMPARISON: Maybe Someday travels
back in time to Boys Don’t Cry, and along the way
picks up Cut Here, Fascination St., and
Blink-182 for the trip.
Anniversary - This one had to grow on me. It has
a gloomy romantic atmosphere, but at first I thought Rob’s
vocals were too low. Now I hear that they
fit within the brooding aura of the song. I love how the keyboards make
it sound gothic-cathedral-like. The clapping
drums really ground this song. INEVITABLE COMPARISON:
Bloodflowers meets up with Drowning Man
in a dark alley and together they steal some keyboards and
atmosphere from Head on the Door.
The maybe
Us or Them - I waver violently on this song. I
hate it one minute and love it the next. When Robert was initially
planning on making the heaviest album ever,
I was very excited to hear Cure-metal. But, after hearing this song,
I’m not sure whether that idea would completely
work or not. INEVITABLE COMPARISON: Give Me It Meets
AC/DC. And I do love AC/DC.
The not-so-good
Never - Never Mind is more like it. Something
in this song wants me to like it. And something in me wants to like
this song. But I’m afraid this song lacks
Cure-soul.INEVITABLE COMPARISON: Never searches high and low
for inspiration from past Cure albums. It
fails to find any, so searches for inspiration from anywhere. Again,
it fails
to find any. So it pouts, because it realizes
that its existence, indeed, sucks.
The extras (so far heard on MP3 only)
Going Nowhere: Dreamily beautiful. Positively
aching mix of guitar, piano and bass. The song’s brief length lends
it a stunning power. INEVITABLE COMPARISON:
DisintegrationThe Album has a drink with Bloodflowers
The Album at a smoky cafe; it’s open mic-nite,
and they decide to perform this song together.
TGaB - The vocals are a bit too disembodied from
this otherwise gorgeous song. I do like the music and the
rambling “structureless structure” of the
song, but feel that it would benefit from re-mixing in order to achieve
its
latent brilliance. INEVITABLE COMPARISON:
Pictures of You goes on vacation to a fetching spot and sends a
lovely postcard of this song. The song in
the postcard is nearly as beautiful as the actual song, but a bit marred
by
the photographer’s over-eagerness to capture
the beauty of the actual song.
I think it’s a sick crime that Robert let Geffen
get away with excluding these last two beautiful songs from the US
CD, and from what I understand,This Morning
is lovely as well. But, overall, I’m still very very happy. It’s like
The Top meets Kiss Me meets the Heaviest
Album Ever Made. I would give the album between an 8 and a 9 at
this point, and it’s rare for me to like
it so immediately, as it took years for some Cure albums to grow on me.
- Alison Ross
Lost- Ok song, for sure the worst opening album
I have ever heard. very bloodflowerish but grows on me each
time. I will pass with the next button at
moments' Post release Good song with headphones, and love the lyrics
Labyrinth- makes me feel a little kisss me. I like it.
Before three- My most favorite off the album..
Reminds me of a night like this mixed with a few songs of wish
Reminds me of a song from BF mixeed with
a lot of other albums. Reminds me of where the birds don't sing mixed
with maybe someday
The End of the world- at first sound of this song
when I first heard it on Leno made me worry. It has grown on me
over the weeks, and I am finding a place
in my life where it fits
Anniversary-love this song. Its got an early cure sound redone to the 2000 style.
Us and then- not a favorite but its hard to hate
any cure song. Reminds me of 39.(bloodflowrs, and a lil (2nd song
bf) Did I say BLODDFLOWERS?
Edit - Post listen on headphones. Lyrics
are good and I find a relationship with them. Withthe lyrics the music
fits
in. its still soo BF
Alt-end. IN YOUR HOUSEish. Great sound and a
little more cure incorporated with the new/old style that Robert
can exert. Maybe a lil wish influence?
Edit, now I can hear lets go to bed.
On- I like this song. simple, and just very happy sounding! a single?
taking off- SKIP Reminds me of WMS
Never- no opinion yet. A little hard for the cure?!
The Promise Love the dark sound of this song.
Opening is great. Roberts howl is ORGASMIC. Guitar is great,
sounds very disintegrationish.Good ending
for an album!
Over all I am just Grateful for a Cure release.
The CD version is much better than the streaming version that I
listened to many times the past week.
Out of *****
I give it ***1/2
- Peter (bloodflowers12)
Non riesco proprio a comprendere le grandi critiche
piovute da tutte le parti, tutti dicono che sia una copia di
WMS, ma non comprendo assolutamente come
sia possibile operare un paragone con quell'album: quello del '96
era davvero un album mediocre, tolte le
poche canzoni stile cure, questo è un album che comunque trovo
compatto
anche nella diversità di stile che
scorre l'album. Le canzoni hanno un non so che di fresco, ed allo
stesso tempo
di ben curato. Se proprio vogliamo definirle
pop alcune di esse, credo sia il migliore pop che i cure abbiano
prodotto da quando esistano e la ricetta
sta forse nella sua voce fresca e gridata più che mai insieme al
mixtum
di chitarra basso e batteria, ordinate quanto
mai. Allora delle due l'una: o io sono uscito pazzo musicalmente
parlando o forse chi si ostina a considerare
quest'album un album mediocre e fantasma del passato, sicuramente
è ancorato ad un'idea dei cure che
ormai farebbe bene a superare: smettiamola di considerarli i padri di
chissà
quale musica, i cure sono affascinanti anche
per questo, per aver creato un album che non ha paragoni con
nessun'altro e con degli spunti musicali
di notevole spessore, e per averlo fatto dopo 25 anni di carriera.
Cosa avremmo voluto, un altro disintegration?
quest'ultimo è unico anche perchè è rimasto senza
un bis mediocre,
senza alcuna replica. Abbiamo avuto disintegration,
pornography, faith, bloodflowers, ed abbiamo quest'ultimo,
che è giustamente diverso dagli altri
ma allo stesso tempo noevole. Ed è forse un'emozione tutta mia l'aver
considerato quest'album ben riuscito, forse
musicalmente sono cresciuto anche io come Robert e gli altri? Chi lo
sa? O forse hanno semplicemente ragione
i fans che avrebbero voluto un disco interamente circondato dalle
atmosfere di lost o going nowhere. Ascoltare
dal vivo le nuove canzoni e tra di esse The drowning man,
Closedown, Charlotte sometimes, Jupiter
crash e Sinking, è stato emozionante ed intenso, ma evidentemente
c'era chi, forse la maggior parte, avrebbe
voluto sentire un ennesimo concerto stile Berlino. Si, evidentemente
sono cambiato io, ma da vecchio fan dei
Cure sono orgoglioso di quest'ultimo loro lavoro e della circostanza che
nel mio cambiamento in peggio siano coinvolti
anche i Cure, protagonisti in peggio ( per molti ) di un album che
considero un gran bel lavoro, condivendo
in pieno la solita frase d'occasione di Robert secono cui se non piace
quest'album non piacciono i cure: mai frase
fu più azzeccata.
- Luka
My opinion on 'The Cure' (albeit after just a
few listens) is its a strong album, maybe not all I was hoping for but
still pretty impressive. There are some
real killer songs here (Lost, The Promise, Truth Goodness and Beauty)
then there are the underwhelming songs (Never
and Taking Off) One of the negative points is that the weaker
songs are bunched together which damages
the album somewhat more than perhaps it should. The tracklisting
seems wrong Robert! Deep down there is a
great album here, I am sure of it, and maybe I will think so after more
plays. I also think its gonna take time
to get used to the rawness of Roberts voice on some of the songs (Us or
Them in particular). There are very few
Cure albums that I have liked after the first couple of listens though
so
I'm hoping I will grow to love it...my EARLY
opinions on each song :
Lost - Angry Cure. Probably my favourite on the
album. I love the intensity in Roberts voice and how the song
builds into a clattering cruscendo. I had
been dying to hear the studio version since Coachella and while I think
this song is better live, its still one
of the highlights here for me. 9/10
Labyrinth - A good (great?) song ruined for me
by the crappy voice effects. It has a kind of Eastern feel to it
which The Cure have explored (rarely) over
the years, its a very confident sounding track...I would have loved it
alot more though without the voice effects,
they are not necessary! Perhaps I will get used to them! 7/10
Before Three - Beautiful lyrics over dreamy layered
guitars. It reminds me of a faster paced Letter to Elise, a
pop song which isn't a pop song, a similar
feeling...except not as good obviously. A catchy song, but possibly too
lengthy to be a single and it doesn’t have
that killer hook which you’re wanting to happen. It is however very
welcome change in mood after the rather
heavy first 2 songs. 7.5/10
Truth Goodness and Beauty - One of the best songs
on the album and I sympathise with the poor bastards who
only get the American tracklisting cd. It
should be on all versions. Screw Geffen! I agree with another reviewer
that it has a kind of Pictures of You feel
to it. Roberts singing here is quite stunning. This song is up there with
the Cure's best work. THIS is classic Cure.
9/10
The End of the World - Great song, this is the
best single and video that The Cure have released since WMS,
maybe even Wish. I was worried it would
stick out like a sore thumb but it fits in well in the first half of
the album.
" I couldn't love you more chorus" couldn't
be more catchy. 8/10
Anniversary - The start of this song reminds me
of Cocteau Twins 'Otherness EP' - unexpected yet intruiging
use of sparse beats. A kind of modern day
Lament. Touching lyrics, a really lovely song 8/10
Us or Them - Without doubt the heaviest Cure song
ever recorded. Makes Give Me It and Shiver and Shake
look wussy. I'm not sure wether I like it
or not. The first time I loved it, the second time....not so much. For
the
first time ever I find Roberts voice kind
of grating here. I bet Ross Robinson was masturbating over this one in
the studio, particularly the chorus, fuck
fuck fuck!! Definitely a RR touch 6.5/10
Alt.End - In Your House version 2! (not a bad
thing at all seeing as In Your House is one of my all time faves)
only this song does not spark the same emotions
(not yet) Great music, great guitar riff, great beats...lyrics don’t
seem to match. 7.5/10
I Don't Know Whats Going On - A cute little pop
song, a nice dreamy vocal reminiscent of Kiss Me era....
elements of 'To The Sky' in here. I hope
this is a single. Oh…nice ‘Hey You’ extended mix ending ;) 7/10
Taking Off - If this is meant to be the big hit
single from the album then I think alot of people will be disappointed.
It does not have the catchiness, it doesn't
have the playfulness, it just does not compete with the classic Cure
pop
songs. Not impressed with this song after
the first couple of listens, sounds like A Pink Dream which is great...for
a B-SIDE! I must admit it gets better with
more listens… 6/10
Never – Cock Rock. Not good enough to warrant
a place on this album. Didn't think it was that bad at first,
however the more I listen to it the more
it sucks. Hopefully better live 5/10
The Promise - Fantastic track! This is the epic
that the album, up to this point, is crying out for. A combination of
all what makes The Cure the best band in
the world. Lyrics that send a shiver down your spine, spiralling guitars
and epic drums complete with Roberts passionate
vocal...all the best elements combine here. Fabulous and you
would think a perfect ending 9/10
Going Nowhere - Just when you thought the album
was over you get this nice 3 and a half minute piano-led
acoustic ballad. Its quite a nice change
as The Promise is quite clearly a perfect close to the album. Maybe
Robert wanted to suprise us. After the indifference
of the album this is a pleasant end to the album. 8.5/10
So overall I would rate it about a 7.5 maybe 8
out of 10, but as I say I have only heard it a few times and its not
enough really. I think its a more challenging
album than the excellent Bloodflowers which I loved from the
beginning. 'The Cure' is not so easy for
me to like straight away but its getting better with each listen. It is
definately a step in the right direction...its
just that, rightly or wrongly, I was expecting this to be the perfect Cure
album. And its not perfect of course. Still...I
can't wait to hear the songs live.
- Tom Johnson
Got the vinyl and cd/dvd at amoeba here in l.a.
geffen is certainly raking it in today, good for them. no luck on
the import version yet. but i'll tell ya,
take off "never" and add "going nowhere" and "this morning" and you
have a really damn good album. i don't know
who the idiot is at geffen that decided on the u.s. cd track list (it
couldn't REALLY have been robert that did
this, could it?) but the vinyl feels much more complete.
not too convinced on "fake" yet. "truth goodness
and beauty" is pretty but seems to go nowhere. but "going
nowhere" could have gone on disintegration,
and "this morning" is growing on me by the minute. and "(i don't
know what's going) on"? when i read the
lyrics, i was thinking OH BROTHER, but it's such a happy, pretty little
song, almost like a head on the door b side.
much better than i had any reason to hope!
- Scott Otto
Got it.
Been listening to it.
Sounds much better than the "preview" streams
I'd listened to a few times....
On a scale of 1 -10, it gets a 7.
I don't love it. I like it. It's 'okay.'
It's a transitional album, at best, and in that respect, it's acceptable,
and even
enjoyable. The "transition" I speak
of involves the new producer, the new way of working, the new American
commercialized record label, the new attempt
to garner a legion of young fans....and so on. A lot of the album
sounds like a more interesting, dynamic
version of "Watching Me Fall" which was an ambitious effort, but
ultimately a rather boring song. Also,
some of the album sounds like out-takes from "Wild Mood Swings."
Lost, Labyrinth & Before Three = This triptych
of songs makes the album good for me. This is classic cure,
and 'new' cure amalgamating beautifully.
The End of the World = Eh. It's very over-produced, it's too slick, it's a bit contrived.
Anniversary = Someone said: "We ought to put one
of those slower, heavier, keyboard-laden, atmospheric
tracks on, yes?" And that's pretty much
what they did. "Apart" is much better.
Us or Them = Why is this song even on the album?
Ii'm glad Robert is angry, he yells well, but Siouxsie and the
Banshees were ultimately more fascinating
with their political paeans. "The Ghost in You" and "Rhapsody" are
two such examples.
alt.end = Do we need another song about robert
wanting to be "done" with his band? Wasn't "Bloodflowers"
an exhausting enough statement as such?
(And a much better one, I might add)
(I Don't Know What's Going) On = I like this one a lot.
Taking Off & Never = Um. Well..... How bout 'taking (them) off' the album and 'never' hearing them again?
The Promise = Loses its effect after a few minutes. I lose interest. I like it, but it just....kind of fades....
** The Japanese import version is on its
way to me, I am looking forward to the bonus tracks. I hear they
are
wonderful.
I dare say their next effort (seeing as they've signed a three-record deal) will be a lot better than this.
- Tim C.
I obtained my copy of the album this morning and
I have to say it is growing on me. I know some fans having
been crying about how bad this album is,
but when I listened to the actual album I found myself enjoying it.
When I was first listening to the album
on the net there were songs that I had mixed feelings about, but now that
I have the actual album I am enjoying it
more and more with each listen. I admit I don't think it is the best
album
ever but I do think it is a great listening
experience. Never is still crap and The Promise is too long, but
overall I
think the new album is really good.
I was disappointed in the DVD though. I thought it would have interviews
with
the band and Ross, but it is basically the
instrumental versions of Lost, and The Promise playing while showing
the band preparing to record. The
DVD does however show the band recording Truth, Goodness and Beauty and
I really liked that song. As far as
the album goes I would say right now my favorites are Lost, Labyrinth,
Before
Three, and Anniversary. Other good
ones are The End Of The World, Us Or Them, and The Promise. I have
mixed feelings about alt.end, (I Don't Know
What's Going) On, and Taking Off. Never should have never made
it pass the demo stage. I am really
looking forward to the bonus tracks because like I said TG&B was
really a
great song.
- Joey Nabors
Im not going to review the album, i think its
been done enough, but the dvd is another story, i read a review
earlier that totally tore it apart. well
i disagree, maybe its because im a musican myself but i find in studio
video
quite cool, and the complaint that the quality
sucks, well you take your home camera and make a better looking
video, it all goes back to the idea of the
album being new and something different from the others, thats why i dont
like to compare it to the others, because
its a new album, and yeah after hearing Truth Goodness & Beauty,
i do
think the us got ripped off of an
awesome track, but i think its totally worth the extra 3 dollars to get
the dvd.
- Joshua Wilcox
Just a few thoughts here...
i've been a fan for about 20 years now and
after having read most of these reviews i find myself agreeing with most
of you on all of it. in other words i can
see where you are coming from. no need to rehash it all.
but when i think back to buying 'the top', 'hotd',
'kmkmkm' etc. on or near their respective release dates i always
had two or three songs that i just couldn't
stand. yes kids, even the sacred 'disintegration' has a few blah moments
in my opinion. in fact, for me, 'faith'
is the only perfect cure album! that's just me of course. music is different
to
everyone. this new album is classic cure.
i skip a few along the way but overall still enjoy the ride. can't wait
for the
b-sides. (am i the only here who listened
to side b of 'standing on the beach' on tape more than side a?). ...long
live
'the cure'!
i give it 7/10... or should i say 8 out of 11???
- Bennion
At first, a preamble: I think that the post-Wish
Cure are not at the same level of the old ones. I didn’t like WMS
and Bloodflowers as the precedent albums.
In particular I found Bloodflowers pretentious in the attempt to emulate
“Disintegration” – the real dark trilogy
is seventeen seconds-faith-pornography…
But I think that Bloodflowers is a step
forward from WMS and this new album is a step forward from Bloodflowers
so…the trend is positive…
Lost: Very different from the classic Cure opening
songs with long instrumental intros. Anyway the song grows in
a “crescendo” of intensity, but my impression
is that it misses a real climax. (6/7)
Labyrinth: my favourite, by now, together with
“Going nowhere”. The most complete song of the album, deep,
powerful, involving. Great bass line, good
vocal effects. A light eastern influence, a light but appropriate use of
electronics. (8)
Before three: I agree with the ones who told that
the live version at the Coachella Festival was much better
because of a certain shade of melancholy,
absent here. This studio version is poppier. Good song, anyway. I love
when Robert’s voice goes up and down on
“alive”… (7)
TEOTW: The worse, together with “Never”… Too pop
for me, even if I really like the video. Someone already
rightly observed that the “oooooo
eeeee ooooo” chorus is a “cut and paste” from Siouxie and the Banshees.
(4,5)
Anniversary: The beginning is very evocative and
reminds me of “New day” (as the final sound of the song
reminds me of “The snakepit”). I think this
song could have been developed better, I don’t like the changing
starting on “one endless moment…”. However
very good song, with great keyboards at last. (7)
Us or them: Angry song, powerful. But I prefer
“Cut” or “Shiver and shake”, for example… Lyrics are political?
Who knows? I’ve always liked the fact that
Robert doesn’t write political lyrics. But how many shouts here and
in
the whole album!!…I think too many…(6,5)
alt.end: an ordinary fair pop song. Not bad, but
nothing special… Yeah, there’re six billion beautiful pop songs
like this, but I listened to them all before...
The end of the song is confused. (6)
IDKWGO: very very pop, but more incisively pop.
I like the refrain and the falsetto voice…it reminds me of an
old b-side I can’t identify by the moment.
Probably it’s a light point the album needs. (6/7)
Taking off: the not-so-good sister of Friday I’m
in love… Not bad, but in the wish period this song would have
been finished among the b-sides. Anyway
a step forward from “Mint car”, “Maybe someday”, “Cut here” and
things like these… (6,5)
Never: the lowest point of the album, together
with the single. Drums are powerful, but this song has no
atmosphere, not a definite shape. (4)
The promise: Very good song with traditional cure
sound. But maybe this is also its defect: I mean that this song
seems a sort of exercise of cure-mannerism.
It seems the cure that want to sound as the cure... I don’t know if
I’ve been able to explain.... However it’s
a very good song, born to fit live. It reminds me of “Sinking” and “End”.
(7,5)
Going nowhere: here is finally the moving side
of the cure!! Emotions at last!! I really can’t understand why they
cut it out from the US version! No valid
motivation is possible! (8)
All in all, the kind of this album is similar
to “KMKMKM” and The head on the door. But “The Cure” misses
very great masterpieces (KMKMKM has “The
kiss”, “Just like heaven”, “How beautiful you are”, “The
snakepit”…; THOTD has “Push” and “A night
like this”) even if “Labyrinth” and “Going nowhere” are great.
But if I had to do a cure-best compilation
with 20 songs I would not put in any song from the last three albums,
maybe just “Want”.
I give it 7 (I give 6 to WMS just thank’s to Want,
I give 6,5 to Bloodflowers, 10 to Disintegration -if more is
impossible- and 9,5 to Wish just because
Disintegration has a 10…)
Some words ‘bout the lyrics: they are too ordinary…
I agree with the one who asked “where is the cure traditional
symbolism?!” Best Cure albums have great
lyrics.
Last thought: I really don’t like the existence
of different versions of the album for the different markets. Is it a
cure’s fault or just a label’s fault? Can’t
really Mr Smith do anything to avoid this kind of stupid choices?!
- Francesco
I just got the album yesterday, and I love it!
For my first listen I made sure I was lying on the living room floor,
with the volume up so I could feel the bass
through the floorboards, and I closed my eyes to lose myself in the
music...
I'd heard 'Lost' a lot already, because of the
iTunes download, so the impact of that was slightly reduced, but I
think it's an amazing song anyway! The way
it builds from almost a whisper to a screaming crescendo is fantastic
- and it gave me a crescendo of excitement
for the new songs I had never heard before.
'Labyrinth' lived up to that excitement, and I thought it was very impressive. I love the drums and driving bass!
'Before Three' was better than the Coachella version,
in my opinion. But maybe that's because people have
already said they thought it was worse...
'Truth, Goodness and Beauty' lived up to its name,
and it's a shame it's not on all versions of the album. The lyrics
and one of the guitar lines are exactly
as they appear on 'Scratch' (on the bonus DVD), but overall the song
sounds much better.
I'd heard 'The End Of The World' too many times
to really appreciate it as part of the album, and the only thing
that stood out to me was the quality of
the proper CD version and the extra 'ooo-eee-ooo' bit. But I still love
the
song.
'Anniversary' is currently my favourite song on
the album, and maybe one of my favourite Cure songs! It has
such a great atmospheric sound...it would
make an excellent film soundtrack... very powerful!
I thought 'Us Or Them' was great - it's obligatory
for bands to make their voice heard against Bush and Blair in
these troubling times, but this song does
it in a very satisfying way, which echoes my own feelings exactly, so
I felt
a particularly strong emotional connection
to it.
I don't understand why people don't like 'alt.end'...
what's wrong with it?? Great guitar, great sound, and with
depth too... again, maybe people's negativity
has influenced me, but I loved it! One of my favourite songs on the
album in fact!
'(I Don't Know What's Going) On' was a nice summery
song. I imagine it would sound great if you listened to it
outside on an English summer evening, as
the sun starts to set and it starts getting colder... although that's the
best time to listen to so many Cure songs!
'Taking Off' was actually a slight disappointment,
as I expected it to be MORE poppy than it was! But on my
second listen I liked it much more. First
impressions are never really reliable! But that's all I can say about
this
one really...
I think I DO understand why people don't like
'Never'. It's a very unusual style for the Cure. But I prefer it to
'Gone!', 'Wendy Time' and 'Screw', and probably
some other album tracks I haven't thought of, so that's enough
for me. I imagine it will grow on me too
- I want it to!
'The Promise' surprised me only in that the opening
guitar line was much quieter than the Coachella version, but
that was actually a welcome change, as I
found that 'riff' a little repetitive after a few listens. But the songs
was
as great as I expected it to be. Very powerful
and loud!
Finally, 'Going Nowhere' was a lovely song, and
a nice peaceful end to the album. But I'm not entirely sure it
makes a better album closer than 'The Promise'...
it's a bit like switching 'To Wish Impossible Things' and 'End'
on 'Wish'... which might work I suppose...
but it's enough to know that Robert Smith envisions the album as
closing with 'Going Nowhere', so that's
the way it should be!
If I was to try to compare the feeling I had after
first listening, I think it's similar to when 'Wish' came out - that
I'd heard loads of great songs, including
some really interesting ones, that I couldn't wait to listen to it again,
and
that I wouldn't be listening to anything
else for a couple of weeks! I love 'Wild Mood Sings' and 'Bloodflowers',
but 'WMS' did leave me feeling slightly
disappointed on first listen, and 'Bloodflowers' was more of a knowing
nod of appreciation than an emotional reaction.
So overall I was very impressed, and some of the
songs will probably go into my top ten list before long. I just
want to get out of work so I can listen
to it again!!!
- Matt Deacon
I got my copy of the Cure just after midnite here
in Atlanta at Tower records. I bought the deluxe cd and I had
to pick up the vinyl after hearing all the
great reviews for "Going Nowhere".
Lost
I continue to like this song. There
is really no other Cure song like it. Roberts voice continually growing
louder
and more passionate throughout the song.
Its just great to hear him use his voice like this and to know he still
can
use it!
Labyrinth,
so far probably my least favorite on the
album at second listen. lots of drums, reminds me a little of Burn
with a
little bit of eastern influence. Not bad,
I just prefer more flowing melody and rythm from the guitars and
keyboard.
Before Three
One of my favorites. This song has
the continous flowing melodies I so love in the music of the Cure.
The bass
parts are just perfect. Robert also
explores the boundaries of his voice very nicely here. A fantastic
Cure
song. Cant wait to hear it live.
Truth Goodness and Beauty
Excellent the first time and growing fast.
Short intro, vocals start almost immediately. Sounds like it could
have
come from The Kiss me or Disintegration
Era. Great vocals once again. The first time Robert
sings the word
beautiful he holds it for at least ten seconds
and this is when the song truly begins for me. Nice lyrics and more
of the sound we recognize as being The Cure.
Another fantastic song.
TEOTW
From the first time I heard this song I
thought it was a very "Cure" song, and I still do. Nothing else
on the
album sounds like this. reminds me
of spilt milk, which is in a world all its own, and I would be willing
to say the
same about this song. A good song.
Anniversary
I really like how this song starts.
It builds to that great flowing melody that I love, but I feel myself
wanting this
song to explode into something more but
it doesnt seem to do it and then it seems like it ends out of nowhere.
A
good song.
Us or Them
Perhaps another song I might be able to
do without. Cant say much about it right now, only that its not
what I
want to hear from the Cure. An okay
song.
Fake
Another song that sounds like it could have
been left over from Disintegration or Kiss me. Good but not as
pleasing as ...Beauty or before three.
Excellent lyrics. This song has that sound...
Alt. End
Another okay Cure song, not a favorite.
(I dont Know...
A fun Cure song. Roberts vocal highs
are excellent here, though the vocals are a bit repetitive. The music sounds
like its doing the wrong thing sometimes
but it sounds good. I guess Im just looking for something else. A
great
song.
Taking Off
hmmm...havent heard it enough yet
Never
Heavy Cure. Reminds me of Cut
from Wish. Fast Guitar Melodies. Once again not what I look for
in a Cure
song. ...An okay song.
The Promise
a good song to end the Cd on or perhaps
a show. Similar to End from Wish. Im listening to it now
and Im thinking
about End.
Going Nowhere
Absolutely fucking Fantastic! Beautiful
flowing, sorrowfu,l melodies. You're right Craig...TOO SHORT! This
song is what I love about the Cure's Music.
This is what I long for from a Cure song. The whole band is
utilized brilliantly! Would be amazing
to hear live. ...the perfect way to end a show.
This Morning
I think this song is equally as good as
Going nowhere when it comes to utilizing the band and expressing the
sound of the Cure. Reminds me of Faith,
Untitled, A chain of Flowers.Another excellent song to end a show.
Fantastic Song!
If you like the Cure you have to get these other
songs that arent included on the US release. The Full or Vinyl
version must be what all the journalists
heard when they reported about the new album.The US release doesnt live
up to all that hype about the best thing
since Disintegration, but with the four other songs, it does!
- Steven Mlynarski
I grew up with the Cure. The first concert I
saw was in 1981. 23 years later i still follow them. But i'm getting more
and more disappointed about their music.
Too much the same
The Cure is repeating herself. All the new songs
could have stand on former CD's. The only new thing is maybe
the sound....more raw and direct....probably
the influence of Ross. Before 3 is the real Cure, not new....the rest...
i've heard before!
But the biggest deception and disappointment for
me was the DVD....the look in the recording studio....
I had the most fantastic visions in my head
about Smith & Co taping their music.....dark, beer, expressive,
emotional etc..
What a shock when you see the DVD: a very clean
studio, all members very passive and sitting upon a chair and
Robert Smith standing in the middle with
a paper in his left hand (so he can read the songtext) and the other hand
in the pocket of his trouser. What a shock!
This was for me the moment thinking: The Cure
isn't the Cure anymore....too old-fashioned, too much the same
thing again and boring.
Is this the Cure way to tape a record? Is Robert getting the new Roger Whitaker?
The Cure nowadays doesn't fit Robert Smith. He's too old for the music he makes......or I am.
- Mark
I have been a cure fan since 1990 and have been
coming to this site since well before bloodflowers was released. I
have never been inspired to make any
contributions before other than the odd poll! All I can say is this album
for
me is everything I love about the cure.
Its fucking awesome, I dont care what anybody says I'm into my second
straight day of listening and its getting
better & better & better & better.
- Leigh Carmichael
I remember when I was 17 years old, ariving in
my bedroom and playing the brand new LP of the new record I just
bought, Disintegration. So much pleasure
to discover these new songs, these new words.
I really wanted to find again this feeling,
so I decided not to hear any song of the Coachella festival. The
temptation was really big but I’ve been
able to resit.
This morning I run into my favorite music shop
and bought both CD (Europeen version 12 songs, and DVD
included wich was a surprise) and LP. And
let’s go for the trip into the cure (I’m so happy to play a new LP on
my
old dusty LP player). I’m really happy to
descover this new record, without any idea of what’s inside.
I was quite intrigued by the very different reviews
posted in your web-site. People seems to love it or hate it. It
seems like « the cure » is not
having unanimous support !
And I anderstant this. As someone said before
this new album seems to contain the best and the worst music the
Cure is capable to produce.
In my point of view there is, hopfully more good work than bad :
1/ lost - love it powerfull, what a voice. the intro could have been longer but... 9/10
2/ labyrinth – love the guitar piece and rob’s
voice. I feel really attracted by the lyrics. Say it’s the same you….
8.5/10 (whow… it’s becomming bigger as
I listen to it 9.5/10)
3/ before three – a little bit too obvious for me and I’m not really found of the melody 7/10
4/ truth beauty and goodness – a little something is missing for this song to be good 6.5/10
5/ the end of the world – the only one I had listened
before. Was not my favorite but I changed my mind after
seeing the video that I love (It seems to
have a lot little clap in this new record !!!!) 7.5/10
6/ anniversary - aghhhh the face of the
cure that I love. Oppresive, dense. Is the sky becoming dark or is it
me ?
(better and better as I listen to
it) 12/10
7/ us or them – still not sure if I like it or
not. In my opinion us or them is the kind of song you need to listen
carefuly to have an opinion. I have a good
feeling but need to adopt it. between 6 and 8/10
8/ fake – ok don’t by the LP just for this song.
It would be a waste of money. No emotion, just nothing special, a
song you will forget 5/10
9/ alt.end – really like it since the first note, simple and effective. The pop song as it should be 8/10
10/ i don’t know what’s going on – sorry but it
doesn’t work for me. The pop song as I don’t like it . and the
lyrics….weak 5/10
11/taking off – don’t know what to think about
it, music works except the keybords at the begining that I hate, so
much dated, but……6/10
12/never – TY what is this fucking song doing on this album. (but are we talking about a song) 3/10
13/ the promise – uh huh (her) it makes me mouth water 9/10
14/ going nowhere – I’m back in my dark room in
front of my LP player 15 years ago. I’m sad and confused and I
love that. 10/10
15/ this morning – what a shame not to have this
song in the CD. Perfect. Love when robert speak with a really
muffled voice. 9.5/10
« the cure » could have been an amazing
album if the track listing were different (as craig said) I think i’m
going
to make my own version of this record
One question stay in my mind : what would have been Ross’s choices ???
(this guy is fucking cute)
I was quite surprised by the sound wich
is quite « dry clean » (not sure we can use this word in that
occasion
but…) much lighter than it as been, and
I like it. Robert’s voice is really good but sometimes a little bit
surexposed.
As Tim Pope said one day « the cure
is the most stupid band I know ». And that’s true. They are fucking
good,
but they make huge mistakes. But I’m not
going to stop loving their music for that reason. Let’s say it makes
them human….
And as Jason Rogers said perfectly well,
I’ve changed since the first time I felt in love with this music, but I’m
still very proud of The Cure.
Looking forward to hear all these new songs Sunday in the Musilac festival…
- Martin Gauthier
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