For those of you with mp3 players may i suggest the following revised 
  tracklist.   
1.Lost 
        2.Labryinth 
        3.Before 3 
        4.This Morning 
        5.Anniversary 
        6.(i dont know whats going) on
 
        7.Taking off 
        8.Truth Goodness and beauty 
        9.The promise 
        10.Going Nowhere 
          
        This would be an album that i would love.
 The   other  five songs are no loss. The Cure have made an album that has
   
        received good press reviews, however it
is  not   special in a way that many long term cure fans had hoped. There 
   
        are far fewer moments when you find yourself 
  open-eyed  and wide-jawed. The spine tingles are fewer. But it is a 
  
        good album and grows on you with time. What
  a  shame  the production is so raw and the lack of signature guitar
   
        sound and low key keyboards take away from 
 the   overall atmosphere. 
        Perhaps this is the album that had to be 
made   to  keep the music community interested. Please Robert, next time 
   
        think of only one word "ATMOSPHERE".....make 
  us  true cure fans happy and do what only the cure are capable 
  
        of. 
          
        - PJ Foster 
          
              
I wont bore everyone with the same views most 
    have expressed here, cause I share a majority of 'em! 
        I produce electronica now, but the boys
have   always  (since age 15 ) been a huge influence overall. They need the
   
        atmosphere back in the mix - the depth and 
 the   richness. Either get Boris (where are you??) back in there, or 
   
        imagine Budgie (Siouxsie) behind the kit?! 
 I    think we're all missing the solid beats here... 
        As for production, picture what Brian Eno
 could    have achieved, it would have been more 'them' than a
        sub-standard rawk production... I'm biased 
 towards   Rogers side, but please more keys next time guys!! 
        Its proof that "Disintigration" cannot be
 topped,    otherwise, its great to have them here still. 
          
        - Roh 
          
              
I'll get out the negatives surrounding this cd
    first: the US version is so lacking (buying the US CD, CD/DVD, 
    
        Japanese, Vinyl & Randall's Island + 
Camden    shows have put a hurt on my Teacher's Summer off wallet) I 
        couldn't believe it ended so soon, I'm not 
 thrilled   with the festival type tour and as for NEVER, well I don't know 
    
        what to say... 
          
        But after listening to the Japanese CD,
the   CD  seems much more alive & full, weird how 3 more songs could
do    
        that & listening to the CD with headphones 
   in a cold candle-lit room made it really come alive. The recording of it
    
        took some time to get used to, my top 2
favs   are  Disintegration & Wish, the rich multi layering tracking is
not     
        there (Wish using 48 tracks!!), but there
 are   some  interesting sounds that take time to hear, its in your face
live,     
        they really ROCK OUT on some songs, Roberts
  screaming   his heart & lungs out & the WAH-WAH mania is
  
        great. I never totally got into Jason, but 
 he  is  now THE DRUMMER of THE CURE. His playing & intensity is
   
        jaw dropping & after I saw him beating 
 the   shit out of the drums & his firsts blew me away & ROSS was 
sooo    
        psyched & getting in his face!!! It's
 a  shame   no one has really commented on the recording process, alternate 
    
        tunings (TEOTW on Leno, Robert was in Drop 
 D  I  believe) & pure intensity ~ Wishing for another Disintegration, 
   
        or whatever isn't gonna happen & if
it  did,   people would still complain 
          
        LOST-great opener, pain, despair & anger 
  &  starting with Ross throwing a metal chair @ Robert (OPEN-ish) 
   
        LABYRINTH-playing with the Eastern flair 
again,    very HYPNOTIC, TRANCEY, killer bass (If Only We Could 
          Sleep Tonight-ish) 
        B43-I LOVE IT! Summer, whispering, wishing 
 &   wanting ~ awesome bass line 
        TRUTH GOODNESS & BEAUTY - this made
the   album   for me ~ Sounds like the vocals were recorded in a metal
  
        room (in a good way), the drum patterns
are   amazing,   the return of the Bass VI ~ the most beautiful & vulnerable 
    
          song ~ reminds me of a LOST WISH 
    
        TEOTW- cool tune! MOOG!!!!!! I love how
Simon    carries  the melody & how they all start the song
        Anniversary - return of the dream-scape
sound    ~  great song ~ it floats 
        US or Them - coulda been on Bloodflowers 
musically     ~ amazing vocal energy 
        FAKE - love it ~ BASS VI, synth ~ new wave 
 80's    
        alt.end - ahhh simons sounds good ~ slide
 guitar,    some cool guitar sounds 
        IDKWGO - didn't dig it much till the chorus, 
  my  girlfriend insists it sound Smash Pumpkins, grew on me & love 
    
          the KM3 vocal howls!! cool percussion 
  too   
        Taking Off - same setup as JLH, but I don't
  think   its a rip ~ I dig it (reminds me of WISH B-SIDE) 
        NEVER.... shoulda got past demo stage 
    
        The Promise - EPIC ~ WAH F*cking WAH!!!!! 
    
        Going Nowhere - BEAUTIFUL ~ PICTURES of
YOU   chime   intro ~ Sound soo much like a LOST WISH 
I think the songs will be even better live ~   
    8/10 Black eyeliners from me!!!! 
          
        - Joey Lomnicky 
          
              
Three weeks in the studio produces this kind of
album. Though I have no shred of doubt for the level of love Ross 
    
        has for the band, he simply isn't capable
 of  producing  the band to its best alone. And the reason is simple: 
  
        This record has no production dynamics. 
    
I can understand why Robinson thinks its great. 
    It sounds great if you look at it from the perspective of someone 
    
        who makes 90's albums. 90's albums are all 
 very   flat-sounding, over-compressed and bland. They're meant for
  
        radio play. To hear Robert say that if we
 don't    like this album, it is to say that we don't like the Cure, well
its    
        offenseive. Nice try, but wrong, and by
this   stage,  we seem to know the Cure better than he does. 
There is something I have always loved about the
band that has been missing through the course of these last 
        three albums. The band used to have a very 
 rich,   layered sound. It is painfully neglected again on this album, 
   
        despite the best attempts of the rock producer 
   (and yes, it makes a difference). I'm not a fan of what Roger brings 
    
        to the band on most occasions, but he is 
criminally     buried in this mix. If you have a band that is a five-piece, 
an     
        album's sound should reflect it. In most 
cases,    this album sounds like it could have been made by a three-piece 
   
        with half-arsed overdubs. 
Some of the songs benefit from the live-in-the-studio 
    approach, and the immediacy and passion of "The Promise," 
        "Never" and "Lost" could have ended up being 
  muddled  crap if left to Dave Allen, but its a small percentage of 
  
        the album when compared to the other 12-13 
 songs.   Just because a production approach works for one song 
 
        doesn't mean it will work for the rest of
 the   album.  At best this album sounds like a great collection of demos.
 If    
        Robert insists on working with Robinson
again,    he'd be wise to give Dave Allen the co-producer's chair.
But I don't know if even that could fix the problems
    here. Though Robinson shares most of the blame, Smith must
        share in it quite a bit. The bottom line 
is  Robert's   songs are uninspired and half-cooked. They're decent
  
        facsimiles of Cure songs, but it seems on
 each   song, Robert does something to get in the way of them, whether it 
   
        be some grating refrain, or sending a flat 
 note   off into the stratosphere (really belting out a shit note doesn't 
    
        sell it any more than if you just sing it
 into   your shoes). This is the first album that I haven't loved at least
 one    
        song. And the first that has made me want
 to  program  out songs - I've hated "The End of the World" from the 
  
        first listen, and "(I Don't Know What's
Going)    On" is my new least  favorite Cure song of all time.
On the plus side, I commend Jason and Simon for
    turning in brilliant performances. But I suppose, in the end, it 
    
        would be more appropriate for Robert to
have   said  "If you don't like my performance on this record, then you 
  
        don't like the Cure." And I suppose if I 
were   to  take him at his word, then maybe it would be best that I not listen 
    
        to the Cure anymore. I've been in love with
  this   band for two-thirds of my life. But now, in a way, it feels like 
    
        meeting up with one of your ex-girlfriends 
 and   expecting to get the same magic out of the relationship that was 
   
        there when you were at the height of your
 love.    Once its gone, its damn near impossible to find it again. And its 
    
        clear Robert doesn't have any idea of how
 to  come  across. At least no more than I do of how to get next to the
   
        new sound. 
I own everything (barring third-world imports) 
    they've ever released, including singles. This record, I downloaded 
    
        it in advance of the release date and hung 
 onto   the mp3s (320 kps), since I refuse to buy an abridged album (fuck 
    
        you Geffen). I doubt I'll buy it at all
now.   I  may just trash the mp3s if I ever wish to buy a $35 import from
Japan,     
        but its a lot of money for a less-than-stellar 
   album.  
And damnit, I really wanted to love it.
- Michael Bird 
          
          
This album is top two Cure Albums. My favorite 
    will always be "Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me", unless something 
  
        better comes around. 
The new mood is like a perfect jaded feeling, 
    which is perfect for the current state of things in general. 
  
        Bloodflowers has been completely demolished
  which   is what you want in general. The Trilogy had to end because
  
        it was simply to heavy to continue. If the 
 Cure   did another album like Bloodflowers, Cure fans would be 
 
        emotionally drained.  In fact, "The 
Cure"    appears to be the most upbeat album. A lot of the "In Between Songs" 
   
        are really smooth, and nostalgic. In fact
 Robert    Smith has captured that Nostalgic feeling that is not meant to
be    
        prevalent in other albums. If you listen 
to  the   B-sides of "Standing on a Beach" you like the music, but they don't 
    
        seem to referring to anything. You could 
just   ignore  the words and the music in-itself takes you to some past
   
        period, which doesn't feel like it is occurring 
   in this, or any other lifetime. 
That's the same feeling with this album. First 
    your living the story of a  "Stranger in Love". Its kind of "like 
 an   
        animal" because it simply begins anew. It
 doesn't    really matter why, you just sense it. You feel like your "trapped 
    
        in your face". What would it feel like to
 see   "the  other side of the door".  This is the most existential
album  of   
        them all, but in the literal sense. This 
is  probably   the most literal Cure album, yet the symbolic structure is 
still     
        greater than ever. Were all fooled by the
 wall   of symbolic structure, so nobody really knows what he is talking 
   
        about. Everybody thinks Robert Smith is
really    dark and poetic, which seems so wonderful. But nodody sees the 
   
        underlying representational structure. They're 
   all "Lost" because they just don't see it underneath. 
Could "Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me" be duplicated. 
    "The Cure" is really just "The Head on the Door" 
        transformed and transfixed. "The Promise"
 is  just  really referring back to "The Kiss". 
The album ends after "Anniversary" and then begins
    again with "Us and Them". So there are two phases to the 
        album. "Us and Them" is like what the Cure 
 would   sound like as an  industrial band, but of course one song is 
    
        enough. You only currently need one song 
like   "The  Kiss". Two would be redundant. 
The best song on the album is "Lost". Every other
    girl just represents the sad fact that I'm really just living the 
    
        story of a "stranger in love". What the
hell   else  is it supposed to be. If it were concrete then it would make
sense,     
        but it isn't. 
The second best song is "Labyrinth" which fools 
    you with the eastern sound, and then the "wah wah" guitars 
        settle in. 
The third best song is "Anniversary". This song
    sort of sets the tone for the rest of the album. This is the jaded 
    
        song that makes the rest sound better, and 
 brighter.    
I really like the intensity of "alt.end", and 
    "never". Really intense. Some of the best literal lyrics "I've ever 
    
        seen". 
The new album is building us up to "The Mixed Up" set of albums. The Cure is eternally revisiting the past.
- Rich Loewy 
          
          
General Overview is that a quick recording has
    sacrificed some of what made the Cure as a band great. Vocal
  
        overdubs and cool studio effects are lost
 in  the  up front rock style that Robinson brings to the table. Thusly,
most     
        songs lack the depth and dreaminess of the 
 Cure's   best work. Roger's keyboard lines sound amazing, but they 
 
        are buried so deeply beneath the hard, thick 
  guitars  and drums that it's damn near impossible to pick them out. 
  
        The lyrics are wanting. Robert used to be
 able   to throw out songs with the most amazing imagery seemingly
 
        without effort. As he's gotten older, his
 lyrics    have taken a turn for the direct and, unfortunately, pedestrian.
 Alot    
        of these tracks wouldn't have even made
it  as  B-Sides  in the past. Robert seems to want to scream to prove that
   
        he's still alive, instead of singing. He 
was   at  half the vocal energy on Disintegration and sounded twice as vital. 
Of    
        course, comparing this album to Disintegration 
   is like comparing frogs and goats, so I'll stop there. Overall, some 
    
        good ideas, a few great ones,  but
too   many   bad ones. Not an album I'll be listening to past August, probably. 
    
This review is for the complete, 15 song vinyl version.
5/10
Lost- Could be another great opener if the synth wasn't buried and the lyrics weren't so boring.
Labyrinth- Good retread of Burn, but I'll just listen to Burn.
Before 3- Pretty, wistful, sad. This is more like it.
Truth, Goodness And Beauty- Did a song just play?
End Of The World- Catchy as hell but not up to their best singles. Ooo--eee--ack!
Anniversary- Beautifully reminiscent of Last Dance. Finally, I hear Roger.
Us Or Them- Good passion, but lacking a good hooky guitar line.
Fake- As in, faking a bad 80s disco cheese song?
Alt.end- I like this! In Your House's music with
    Play For Today's lyrics. A good good good bass line and Robert 
    
        sounding...spunky. 
(I Don't Know What's Going) On- Despite the fact
    that it doesn't ever really boil over, it's still a nice, wistful, 
    
        danceable Cure pop song. 
Taking Off- Needs better keyboards throughout the song, and a solo! Sounds like a retread.
Never- There is nothing to say about this song.
The Promise- A good, epic doomspeaking song. Nice guitar licks.
Going Nowhere- This is it! Oh so beautiful. The only song on the album I want to play over and over and over.
This Morning- A nice song, but not as good as all the hype I heard. Middling.
- Poodelee 
          
          
Just got the Japanese version of "thecure"  
    the extra three songs do make up the difference where "never" and 
    
        I don't know" lack in integrity to the album.  
    Taking off could have been better than advertised by some 
        reviewers.  Going nowhere is an instant 
  classic.   
        Overall out this whole album the only song 
 that   sounds like a whole new type of material is "LoS T." I think
  
        Robert should maybe had explored more of 
that   type  of material or maybe he did and did not fit the album. Over
   
        all this new album sounds like Kiss Me Kiss
  me  and Wish demos. 
I do appreciate a whole new album but I am bummed
    about the festival concert decision.  All I wanted was three 
    
        hours  of cure for a real concert experience. 
    
- Ignacio 
          
          
I am getting my review of the latest album out
    later than what I had wanted, but better late than never. In my 
    
        reading of the other fan reviews, I noticed
  people   seem to be drawn along two extremes: They either love or hate 
   
        this new album. Not many reviews fall somewhere 
   in between. In my opinion, The Cure is one of their better 
        albums. I remember when "FIIL" was a hit 
single,     the first Cure album I bought was WMS when it was released 
        in '96. I read in the Uncut article that 
WMS   was  the last album in which Robert worried about what people 
 
        thought, which I think is great!
  
I am not going to do a blow-by-blow of each song
    because I think that is trite. I agree with Bruno in that the 
   
        drums on this album are very prominent,
namely    on "Us or Them." I loved what Robert does with his vocals in 
 
        these tracks, which were mosre passionate
 than   recent albums. I noticed that some of you expressed strong
 
        dislike for "WMF" from the last album because
   some  of these tracks reminded you of that song. I was happy to
   
        be reminded of WMF because that was one
of  my  top  three favorite tracks on the BF album. Some people had an
   
        issue with the length of "Promise." Longer 
 tracks   don't bother me, but then I am also a Type O Negative fan. 
 
        Some say Robert is yelling, well, as a fan 
 of  L7,  yelling doesn't bother me. Robert did not sound like he was
   
        yelling to me anyway. I think it's a mistake 
  to  compare this album (or any album by any band) to its predecessors. 
    
        I prefer to look at each album individually. 
  I  agree with Robert: If you don't like it, then you don't like The 
   
        Cure! 
- Tempest 
          
          
Fuck you Ross, What did you do to Robert?  
    This album really sucks.  God dammit, I've never criticized thecure 
    
        before. For 15 years I've been a devoted 
fan,   I  was there defending thecure during the WMS era,  I defended 
    
        Bloodflowers to the death.  However 
I  can't    sit here and pretend that "thecure" is a good album when 
it's  not. I    
        have only the stupid U.S version, and I
love   "Lost"  but he rest of the album is really not that intersting. 
I noticed    
        it's taking way too much effort for the
masses    to say anything good about this album. 
        I know Robert said "if you don't like this 
 album,   you don't like the cure"  nonsense, Robert is just being a 
    
        salesmen.  This album sucks, however
 I  still   like previous albums.  What a fucken disappointment.
  
In all seriousness, it's a cool album.  I
just feel (never, I don't know wgo, taking off), are average songs that could
 
        have been better. I saythat because the
rest   of  the album is in a higher level.   I guess what gets
me ticking    is the 
        Japanese and us. track difference, that' 
what   really  burns me up. 
- Debunker1975 
          
          
japanese version (definitive, in my opinion.)
1. lost. strong and passionate. robert sounds 
    alive again. but why are roger's synth lines buried so deep? this is a
    
        problem throughout the album
2. labryinth. very dark and pornography-ish. a good one-two punch
3. before 3. one of my faves. wistful and sad, with great guitar melodies
4. truth goodness and beauty. ok guitars, but it doesn't really go anywhere
5. end of the world. i like it more and more. 
    actually reminds me of the head on the door era, except for those 
    
        damned ooo-eee-ooos 
6. anniversary. nice and dark. reminds me of last dance
7. us or them. robert certainly sounds pissed. but it's a bit too contrived. there aren't enough good guitar lines
8. fake. weird. almost sounds like some sort of early 80s synth band. doesn't make much of an impression
9. alt.end. surprisingly, this is one of my favorites
    so far. like a re-write of play for today, mixed with secrets. 
    
        robert's vocal is awesome 
10. (i don't know what's going) on. perfect pop song. really sounds like it could have come from kiss me
11. taking off. aside from the fact that it sounds
    like just like heaven and friday i'm in love's baby, it's still a 
    
        great pop song. needs a good piano instrumental 
   though  
12. never. this song sucks
13. the promise. really harsh, but i love the guitars. reminds me of end, though not lyrically
14. going nowhere. the quitessential cure song. 
    i'd love it if they made an album of songs just like this. this song 
    
        is utterly amazing. roger is on fire 
   
a good album. them's my two cents.
- Scott Otto 
          
          
This latest album lacks songs, tunes, melodies, 
    rhythms, ideas. None of these songs should have made it past the 
    
        demo stage. Did no-one break the trance
of  the   group therapy sessions and say 'Hey, Robert, this is a bit 
 
        lacking?'. It's the worst reprise of recent
  Cure   cliches I can think of. Being name-checked by recent bands
  
        doesn't mean a thing in itself, is no guarantee 
   of integrity ordirection. You just have to take each song on merit. I 
    
        find it all lazy, lyrically empty, musically 
  indifferent.  Robert talks a good album in interviews (he always has done)
   
        and is bright, but I don't want Wittgenstein's 
   Tractatus, just songs. On a musical level, it's not very good. Killing 
   
        An Arab has more guitar kick than this whole 
  album,  vintage guitars or not. It has that disastrous feel of going
   
        through the motions, saying you should feel
  such-and-such,   but not re-creating the feeling. At a basic level songs
  
        are just songs and either they have something
   or  they dont. This strikes me as passive, monotonous, a mall-rats 
    
        idea of what the Cure might be - it lacks
 personality,    structure, skill, passion. Look at TIB, Seventeen Seconds,
 
        Faith, Pornography...then this? To which 
the   obvious  answer is - groups move on, things change...yes, but you still 
    
        want good songs, whatever the direction.  
   This strikes me as lazy and frivolous, oddly patronising in a way. No-one 
    
        seems to have questioned Robert's judgement
  -  all  too entrenched, too frightened? I find it all woolly, but above 
    
        all, lazy, lacking. There are no songs.
Bummer.     
- Ben Scammell 
          
          
I won't post a review of the album, there are 
    already so many... There's just on thing I'd like to point out: nobody 
    
        mentioned the drums on this album. Boris 
was   a  very good drummer, sure, Jason's work was great on the last two 
   
        albums but honestly, Jason is THE musician 
 on  "The  Cure". His parts are extremely creative, powerful, 
        difficult... I don't think there's another 
 Cure   album with such a high level of performance. I remember posting a 
    
        review when Bloodflowers was released and
 I  wanted   to put a stress on that (since very few people seemed to
  
        appreciate his work on WMS).  Post
this   or  don't, but I really think that Jason deserves a sincere tribute
:)     
- Bruno 
          
          
Now unlike most people, I came onboard with The
    Cure in the later years. "Show" and "Wish" were my first real, 
    
        significant exposures to the band.  
I  had   heard of their propencity for laborous, gloomy dirges, but I really 
 didn't    
        get a good sense of it with those records.  
    After working backwards into their catalouge I find that, while I love 
    
        their music, those long winded numbers are 
 usually   counted amongst my least favorite.  I found "The Cure" to 
be    
        a decent balance between atmosphere and
straight     songcraft while raising the bar in terms of rawness that I have 
    
        not really heard in the band to a great
degree.      After seeing some live performace clips and listening to
the   
        "Show" record, I find I like the live incarnation 
    of the band much more than I do the studio work.  Classics such 
    
        as "Just Like Heaven" and "Pictures Of You"
  have   a tendancy to pop much more when not hampered down by
        massive amounts of reverb and atmospheric
 delays.     This album strikes a great balance, being essentially a
 
        spruced up live recording in a studio environment.  
    In particular I enjoyed the following songs for the following 
   
        reasons: 
Lost - This song is just a progressive frenzy 
    of noise and screaming that has much more subtlety and craft than 
    
        other songs like it.  I find the pure,
  venting   nature of the song to be very appealing.  I particularly
liked  that  the 
        power of the song was not hidden behind
layers    of guitar and synths.  The less is more approach was most 
   
        assuradley the proper choice. 
Before Three - Some people have ragged on this 
    tune, but I don't really see the reason for it.  It is far from a
    
        catchy little pop number, but never falls
 into   that area of being bloated and overbearing.  It's another well
 crafted    
        emotional expression.  I appreciate 
it's   ability  to maintain a consistant atmosphere and mood while keeping 
a   
        driving energy.  The song never lingers 
  or  wallows.  It also posesses a certain melancholy about it that does
  not  
        interfere with it's energy. 
The End Of The World - Out of all of the songs 
    I feel this one actually fits the tone of the record the least.  
It    
        doesnt have the apparent dark edge of some 
 of  the  other songs, nor does it have the moodiness, but it is 
 
        significant for it's fun factor.  It's
  a  well  crafted song that is fun to sing along with, at least for me. 
   
(I Don't KNow What's Going) On - My only issue 
    with this song is that it just doesnt ever really break away and 
    
        go running.  Again, it's a good example 
  of  a driving song with a consistantly maintained atmosphere that never 
    
        becomes overbearing.  The chorus parts
  are   uplifting in their own way, although I think this song could have 
    
        benefitted from some additional production 
 work.    Has a kind of Beatles feel to it I havent heard in the bands
  
        work before. 
That's all I'm actually going into, but I think 
    you get the idea.  After a record like "Bloodflowers", to do any 
    
        more big pieces would have been ridiculous.  
    The Cure are a multi-faceted band that has more dimension to it 
    
        than most others, and has never allowed
even   those  who love them to pigeonhole them.  I also believe that,
at this     
        stage in their career, it's a bolder choice
  to  go for a more stripped down sound and songwriting approach than to 
    
        try and replicate what many people consider
  their   "signature sound"  I beleive Robert's comment regarding
  
        people who dont like this album not liking 
 The   Cure comes from his belief that this album gets back to the roots of
    
        what The Cure was before they became "Goth 
 Superstars";   a smart rock band.  It is, perhaps, plausible to 
 
        suggest that many people are attracted to
 the   doom  and gloom aspects of the band while not really giving full
   
        credit to the other side.  I find I 
enjoy    songs like "Inbetween Days", "A Letter To Elise", "High", and "Six 
   
        Different Ways" for their simple and effective 
   songwriting and fun to listen to nature, while still maintaing a level 
   
        of intelligence not present in most pop
music.      While I'm sure they are not done with teh dirges and gloom,
they     
        also didn't start out that way, so at this 
 point   I'm content to just let the boys entertain me and keep me guessing 
    
        as to what's next to come. 
- Michael Schinke 
          
          
I've been a major fan since 'Disintegration' and
so having finally got hold of my copy of 'The Cure' on Friday, it's 
    
        been on my CD player ever since over the 
weekend.     I haven't fully made my mind up on it yet but, here are 
        some thoughts after several listens... 
    
"Lost" is a great idea and puts The Cure exactly 
    where they should be - making edgy uncomfortable music that 
 
        conveys the unnerving feeling Robert was 
trying    to get across lyrically. 
"Labyrinth" is the PERFECT second song with an
    awesome bass groove. Simon is the root of the band musically
  
        more than ever these days, building on his 
 great   work on 'Bloodflowers' and, with Robert's FX'ed-up vocal this 
   
        has a sound not unlike early Ride or the 
Black    Rebel Motorcycle Club - one of the best bands around right now 
   
        in my view (too bad they're not on the Curiosa 
   bill).  
"Truth, Goodness & Beauty" - This is the one
and only time I could ever say Jason's drumming is comparable 
        with Boris's - wonderful fast panning in 
the   mix  by Ross and a stunning lyric by Robert. This IS what The Cure 
   
        can mean to me. 
"The End Of The World" - OK, not a bad single 
    but in my book not really The Cure - sounds more like the 
        Smashing Pumpkins or even Weezer to me and,
  being   cynical for a second, I'd say a clear effort to play to the
  
        American teenie audience whom the band seem
  to  be counting on these days (look at the bloody video - hardly 
  
        Crawley is it??) ... there are still a few 
 of  us  in the UK who dig The Cure, Robert, remember us! :-) 
I agree with other postings that "Anniversary" 
    marks a far too belated entry into the album's running order by 
    
        Roger but boy does he deliver when he joins
  the   party, proving again why he is far and away the greatest
  
        keyboardist The Cure have ever had, generating 
   a monumental soundscape for Robert to sing into. 
"Us Or Them" - wonderful bass again and tremendous 
    to hear Robert truly going for it again vocally - haven't 
        heard him do that on record since the 80s. 
 I  hate  the Bush administration too by the way... :-) 
"alt:end" - Can't understand why others don't 
    like this - clearly a simple pastiche of their earlier work although 
    
        the handclaps may be a tad too much of a 
rehash    of "Let's Go To Bed" (more on the drumming in general to 
        follow...). But after the "In Your Room" 
style    guitar intro there are some absolutely delicious chord changes and 
   
        I'd say this has to be the grooviest song
 on  the  album. 
"The Promise" - Gets better with every listen. 
    From a guitar point of view it doesn't have quite the same level of 
    
        Perry's 'riffary' (which I had been kind 
of  expecting)   as some of his 'Bloodflowers' work ("Watching Me Fall"/
  
        "39") but truly emotive and reminds me of
 Robert's    stunning solo through "The Kiss" on the Trilogy DVD -
 
        which incidentally I would say is the most 
 organic   playing of the electric guitar I've heard since Jimi Hendrix. 
   
"Going Nowhere" - Beautiful. Roger's piano is
    so melancholic but so uplifting at the same time, always one of the 
    
        band's strengths. Nice to hear the 6 string
  bass   get a decent run out again too. A nice understated end to the 
   
        album. 
Right - now the criticisms...
Firstly we all know the album was recorded in
    just a few weeks and completely live, but seriously I think they 
    
        could have spent a bit more time on post-production. 
    At times it sounds seriously under-produced, almost 
        demo-ish and whilst this may appeal to the 
 rootsy   elements of the crowd, I can't believe that Robert is one of
  
        them. Remember he is the man who gave us 
'Seventeen     Seconds' - surely one of the best produced, best 
        SOUNDING, most coherent albums of all time. 
    
Secondly - all the other songs I've not mentioned. 
    All pap. Sorry. I just can't stand the contrived 'happy guitar 
    
        pop' Robert seems to have repeatedly spewed
  out   with over the last decade... "Mint Car", "Round & Round & 
    
        Round", "Cut Here". Seriously, how can anyone
   put  these alongside 'Just Like Heaven', 'Hot Hot Hot!!!",
        "Close To Me" (and all the others). If it
 ain't    up to that standard it shouldn't be on a Cure album, it's that
simple.     
And finally... the drums. I'm a drummer myself 
    (if you're interested, see my band's site, http://www.Colvex.com) 
    
        and if there is one thing I have learnt
over   the  years, it's to keep it simple. The drums are there for just one 
    
        reason - to emphasize rhythm. With Jason's 
 constant   clattering around the kit and seeming inability to stop 
 
        thrashing away at his crash cymbals I'm
sad   to  say you completely lose all the thrust of many of these songs 
  
        ("Truth, Goodness..." being a notable exception). 
    It's about time someone sat him down and explained this to him - 
    
        the reason so many of us loved Boris's drumming 
   is that, although at times it was fantastically complex, it was so 
    
        well looped and played like a metronome
that   you  couldn't help but feel moved by it. The fills on "Just Like 
  
        Heaven" for example are SO simple but genius 
  at  the same time because we all remember them and they don't 
 
        distract from the full fat punchy rhythm.
 The   reason  Simon's playing is so noticeable these days I think is because 
    
        the drums are so all over the place - he's 
 having   to basically be a one man rhythm section and, to his eternal
  
        credit, just about pulls it off. Sorry Jason,
   you're  a nice feller, but you've GOT to wake up and realize what it's
all    
        about! Stick on 'the Head On The Door' and 
 start   from there!! To Ross' credit however, this is the best drum
  
        'sound' on record by The Cure since 'Wish'. 
    
Well, apologies everyone for the essay. I've never
written to this site before but because this album is so emotive 
    
        I just had to. And that, I guess, is a good
  thing...   proof that The Cure can still get me going! 
- Gavin 
          
Heres another review of the album, though we have
a million already why not add something else, firstly congrats 
    
        to Jeff Kovalski who wrote an earlier review 
  for  pointing out some important facts, one: who cares if you don’t 
    
        have all 15 tracks, buy another version, 
sure   its  annoying, but I just read on the net that a marine has likely 
had     
        his head hacked off….now theres a real problem! 
   Get some godamned perspective! And secondly: all the 
        negative posters on this site, whilst opinions 
   are great, just stop listening if you hate the band….man so 
        depressing and despondent to log into this 
 section   and read so many disparaging comments….there I feel better 
 
        now…. 
To the album, I am so in love with this…….I think
    its fantastic and that’s not the comment of a sheep either to 
   
        those who made some remarks like that previously 
    about peoples positive postings. Once again the Cure have 
        tapped into their magic side, I think that 
 Ross   has done something amazing here, you can tell there is real passion 
    
        and fire again and I think he has really 
helped    the band to bring that out. This album is so alive compared to the
    
        sleepy Bloodflowers, which is still wonderful, 
   but this is like a pop rock on the tongue! I cant think of one song 
    
        save “Never” which I don’t love or at the
 very   least like very much. Needless to say “End of the World” is their 
   
        very best pop single in forever, and Ill 
be  a  monkeys  uncle if “Taking off” isn’t the contender for the next off 
the     
        album, its f**** amazing, makes me sing
and   dance   around the room like a cat who’s had its tail trod on. I
  
        personally cannot wait to get the vinyl
version,     really want to hear the other three tracks…luckily in NZ we
got     
        the 12 track version “Going Nowhere” its 
so  wonderful!    Im hoping that they keep working with Ross for the 
next  
        album! 
And I honestly do think this is their best album
    since Disintegration, I haven’t felt this elated about them since 
    
        1989! 
- Alastair Ross 
          
          
I have listened to the "the cure" inttensively 
    over the last couple of weeks and wanted to throw my tuppence 
   
        worth to your review page. Like a lot of 
the   visitors  to the chain of flowers site I have been an avid cure fan 
for    
        years and like one of your previous reviewers
   I  am also appalled at some of the negative comments about this new 
    
        work. The only reason I can think of for 
any   true  cure fan reviewing this album negatively is that you just have 
not     
        listened to it fully and properly yet. I 
have   to  agree that "never" is crap but outside of that one mistake this 
is     
        actually a brilliant recording. I got the
 cd  and  vinyl versions and for anyone who has not heard "this morning" 
    
        (extra track on vinyl) you have got to.
Seriously     this song is one of the fucking graetest cure moments ever.
I am     
        not going to do a track by track report
on  the   album but i would seriously rate it up there with Disintegration, 
   
        Pornography, Seventeen seconds and Faith.
 So  come  on people. Turn the fucking thing up relax and enjoy what in
   
        time will be realised as a masterpiece.
Roll   on  oxegen in Ireland next saturday. 
- Mike B. 
          
          
As much as I like Lost and End of World, in my
    opinion, the Album really doesn't get started until Track 5 with 
    
        Anniversary. From that point the album seems 
  to  have a direction with the climax being Taking Off.  Keys should 
    
        have been a tad bit higher on Taking Off 
-  which   would make the song really shine.  Is this error on Ross' 
part,  as    
        he hasn't had much work with bands that
use   keyboards?    Maybe not, but they really did this song a disservice
 by 
        keeping the keys too far in the background.  
    Overall, Robert made an excellent choice in choosing Ross and 
   
        jumpstarting a new era for the Cure. 
   
As much a Robert is a master with lyrics/writing 
    - is it just me, but the words/theme are words we have heard on 
    
        previous albums, just in a different arrangement.  
    Side note: very disappointed in the "making of" disc, although 
    
        it was done well they should really give 
fans   a  true feeling of what's it's like in the recording studio - drop 
the     
        music and let us hear what they are actually 
  talking  about. 
- Luke LaCasse 
          
          
After listening to the album (or bits of it) countless
times by now, I can safely declare that the only songs I will 
        listen to repeatedly are: 
Lost -- This song is fucking awesome!  It
    gets better with every listen (and to think I wasn't impressed on the 
    
        first go around). 
Labyrinth -- This could have been on Kiss Me Kiss
Me Kiss Me (it reminds me of a cross between "The 
        Snakepit" and "If Only Tonight We Could
Sleep"    musically).  
Anniversary -- This has got to be one of the most
powerful songs Robert's written since "Same Deep Water As 
        You" -- the music is awesome, and Robert's 
 vocals   are perfect. 
The Promise -- Classic Cure Epic...worth the price
of the CD alone.  Robert sings his heart out on this, and the 
    
        band back him wonderfully. 
The rest of the songs I skip over most of the 
    time (I didn't even put "(I Don't Know What's Going) On" and 
  
        "Never" on my mp3 player).  "Before 
Three"    and "Us or Them" are the best of the rest.  As for the rest, 
I     
        probably won't give them much of a listen. 
    
The album feels so rushed, and at times that's 
    a good thing, but when it's bad it's really bad ("Never").  Some 
    
        of the songs sound as if they need some
more   marinating...  "Anniversary", great as it is, could have been a 
  
        masterpiece. 
But to talk of could-have-beens is pointless.  
    This is the album we were given, and it's severely half-baked.  I
    
        have to argue with Robert's stance of, "If 
 you   don't like this you don't like us"... I've loved The Cure for a very 
    
        long time, but I was never a fan of most 
of  the   poppy, happy songs, preferring the deep and dark ones over all. 
    
        This album has too much filler, which I
have   never  seen with any of the others -- though maybe it's because, 
  
        unlike the others, the truly bad songs on
 The   Cure  are all lumped together (at least on the American version,
   
        which makes sense since most Americans have
  shitty   tastes in music).  I've ordered the Japanese Import, so
  
        I should get that next week and finally
be  able   to hear most of the other songs.  If "This Morning" is as
good  as    
        I hear it is, it'll definitely be worth
waiting    for the single after all this.  Then I'll do what someone
previously     
        wrote about: make my own version of the
album.     
God bless mp3 technology.
- Woland 
          
          
I just picked up the new album and have listened 
    to it several times. The Edith Bunker in me says if I don’t have 
    
        anything nice to say I should just clam
up,   but   really, from a pop perspective it is one of the least satisfying
to     
        date. As for raw emotion over style it scores
   big  and is as good as any of the following songs: So What, Give Me 
    
        It, Doubt, The Snakepit, and Disintegration. 
  While  it is no schmaltzfest like WMS it seems to have the opposite
   
        effect. Songs like Lost, The Promise, Never
  and   Us or Them have these bland, noisy, disjointed riffs and there 
    
        is a great deal of screaming. Robert Smith’s 
  voice  was an acquired taste for me. When he shouts lyrics like Ian
   
        Mackaye it starts to grate again. The Cure’s 
  most  celebrated goth anthems: 100 years, Charlotte Sometimes, 
  
        Faith , Short Term Effect, etc. came with
 some   very engaging rhythms and chord progressions. There is less of 
   
        that here but the same amount of lines like: 
  I  CANT FIND MYSELF!!! and "Death is with us all , we suck him 
  
        down with our first breath".  The good
  lesson   of this album is that being depressed ought to feel….well …
  
        ……..bad. 
- Peter Severy 
          
          
After listening to "The Cure" several times in
    the past few days, I have to say that I’m appalled at some of the 
    
        very negative feedback from other fans.
This   is  a great album. It’s got more heart than anything since
        "Disintegration" and more balls since "Pornography." 
    For a 25 year-old band to be producing something so raw, 
        emotional and relevant is an amazing accomplishment. 
    Jason’s drum-work is phenomenal, the interplay of guitars 
        is brilliant and, in comparison, this album
  makes   "Bloodflowers" look musty and tired. 
Furthermore, I found the DVD to be a fascinating 
    peek inside the studio. They really did, in fact, record this 
   
        album to candlelight. How cool. The moment 
 where   Jason drops a stick and starts hitting the cymbals with his
  
        hand shows the intensity he put into the 
work.    And Ross is there the whole time, right there in front of Jason, 
in     
        his face, egging him on. There’s a palpable
  sense   of volatility–you get the feeling Jason wants to jump up and kick 
    
        his ass. And that’s what Ross was going
for,   that  attitude and aggression. 
In any case, those fans who just keep hating everything
this line-up creates need to ask themselves why they are 
        still caring enough to buy the albums at 
this   point,  much less visit a newspage solely devoted to a band they don’t 
    
        like anymore. It’s kind of a buzz-kill for 
 the   rest of us. The Cure is not ever going to make "Disintegration, 
   
        Volume II." Accept it. Move on. This is
a  very   different band than The Cure circa 1989 or 1992. But they have 
   
        become one hell of a cool fucking band,
and   this   album is a powerful achievement. I’ve never heard a record that 
    
        I liked all the songs on and this one is 
no  different,   but any group that can record something as beautiful and
  
        haunting as "Anniversary" is deserving of
 praise    in my book. 
I can’t wait for the extra songs on my Japanese 
    version in the next week or two, and no, I don’t give a crap about 
    
        there being different album versions either. 
  There’s  a great big world out there with war, famine, and genocide. 
  
        Worry about that, people, not about someone
  in  Belgium listening to a Cure song that you <sniff> <sniff>
  don’t   
        have on your CD. 
- Jeff Kovalski 
          
          
After a lot of listens, I am really disappointed 
    by the CD, except for the superb "Going Nowhere".  I want to be 
    
        nice, I really do.  The worst Cure
record    is miles better than 90% of what's on the radio and I've adored
the band     
        for 18 years.  This isn't awful, but
 ugh.     Congratulations Ross, you have succeeded in draining the atmosphere, 
    
        eccentricity and uniqueness from one of
your   favorite  groups.  The "live" basis is a new direction, and I
thought     
        the group maybe needed one, but this ain't 
 it.    You can't take the essential musical style away from the musicians, 
    
        but apparently you CAN shove them head first 
  into  all that made late-90's corporate alternative so bland.  Excuse 
    
        me, head last because suddenly it sounds 
like   they've  never taken a drug in their lives. 
I hope I'm wrong, but the meanest critical bones
    in body will no longer be suppressed.  I'm praying that Robert 
    
        has some secret masterplan and this is all 
 some   way he is pushing the group toward overcoming the musical 
 
        shortfalls of WMS/BF.  But I will just
  say   it: the group has never recovered from losing Porl and Boris. 
  I think   
        Robert, Roger and Simon's work has been
just   as  good as anything in the band's catalogue, including on "The 
  
        Cure". 
        Perry is brilliant at guitar textures (I 
could    listen to that ghost-scream feedback on the live version of "Open" 
   
        forever) but he is just terrible at giving 
 melodic   support to the song.  No sense of melodic invention at all. 
    
        And Jason!  I agree the new CD is his 
 best   work with the band but his style has been wrong for the group all 
along    
        and nearly ruined Bloodflowers for me.  
  Robert  just said on XFM that he's a hard rocker at heart and I agree, 
    
        he sounds like he should be playing with 
Rush   or  Van Halen.  His drumming always sounds clipped.  "The 
Cure"     
        is the first time there's any occassional
 real   bottom.  It just sounds like he's chronically "light", and they
 think   
        turning up his volume will make it "heavy".  
    Wrong!  On top of that there seems to be a big avoidance of 
    
        syncopation, or anything sensual or exotic.  
    It's not like he's incapable of doing rhythm patterns like Boris did on
    
        "High" or "If Only Tonight We Could Sleep",
  he  finally comes up with some in "Labyrinth" for example, but
  
        instead of making consistently involving 
patterns,     he tries to throw every sound and rhythm break he can into the
    
        songs.  But if you don't have a quality 
  starting  point, that ain't gonna help!  Of course, maybe it really 
 is Robert   
        who has lost his drumming judgment and is
 at  fault.   Won't make me feel any better.  I wish Robert would
 bite  the   
        bullet like he did with Lol, admit Jason 
was   a  mistake and fire him, and that Jason would go on to massive success 
   
        with some Velvet Revolver type group. 
  Sorry   Jason but that's the big leagues. 
With the right players and no Ross it all could 
    have been gorgeous.  As it is I will listen to the quality of the 
    
        songwriting and imagine what it should have
  sounded   like in my head, and hope that maybe this will grow on
  
        me in time. 
- Justin Budinoff 
          
          
Still have to listen to the damn thing MANY more
    times but at this stage I'm immensely pleased with a few 
        minor caveats. 
Several of these songs are among the strongest 
    work they've ever done. Lost is a great opening track, all 
        escalating vocal rage and dirge and desperation. 
    Labyrinth may be recycling themes from WMF but I love 
        the Snakepit vibe and the Burn drums and 
the   sense  of movement and menace and possibility. Before Three is 
  
        warm and cuddly and sentimental and makes
 excellent    use of the word "fucked" and is just a beautiful pop song
 
        that doesn't feel at all forced or fake
(other    than the overdone vocal embellishments that Robert feels the need 
   
        to place at the end of nearly every song 
on  this   album). I think the lyrics to T&G&B sound like they were
 written    
        by a 15-year-old adolescent with a manic-depressive 
    s.o., but it's still sweet without being cloying, simplistic but 
    
        not dumb. TEOTW was not my favorite song 
ever,    but it fits very well on the album and is a damn good single. 
  
        Anniversary is absolutely perfect, one of
 the   few  cases where the lyrical tone evolves from negative to darkly
   
        warm. Romanticism that acknowledges the
inevitability     of pain and disappointment but still winds its way home
        in the end. Lament-ish, the very finest. 
    
The second half of the album is not as as strong, 
    and the tone goes all over the place with angered howling 
        (Us or Them), melodic cynical anguish with 
 underlying   yearning (Fake), idealized romantic indifference done 
 
        with gusto and verve (alt.end), a couple 
of  slightly   overdone and slyly disposable, modestly catchy but mostly
  
        riffless popsongs (On and Taking Off), an
 overly    repetitive, uncharacteristicly punchly rock tune with screamed 
    
        vocals and probably the catchiest hook on
 the   whole  album (Never), and an epic 10-minute howl into the depths
   
        of that same despair he has so eloquently
 plumbed    before but never quite with this much urgent fury (Promise).
  
        Uneven, but far from sucky. And then there's 
  the  two other endings. 
This Morning is absolutely stunning. Yes, Going 
    Nowhere is a sweetly wistful taste of Disintegration-ish 
        romanticism, but This Morning is the gutwrenching 
    ache of all that has fallen apart and all that can never be 
 
        gotten back. Those whispered words...just
 buy   the  vinyl and keep resetting the needle. This Morning will haunt
   
        you. 
On the downside, there is nothing resembling thematic
coherence on this record after the first few songs. Yes, 
        they've done that before with KMKMKM and 
WMS,   but  on those albums I still felt there was an overall vibe,
 
        different elements in the same equation. 
This   just  goes all over the place. And not in a "Top" way, either, though 
    
        I can see where you could get that (esp. 
Us  or  Them).  
And lyrically several of the songs fall into the
same repetition traps that I thought plagued Bloodflowers. You 
    
        know, that whole "repeat the whole verse 
and   chorus  but just change a couple of words in each line to their 
  
        happy/sad exact opposite." I'm not saying
 it's   a poor song structure, but it's an overused idea. Otherwise, while 
    
        the lyrics are seldom elegant stand-alone
 poetry,    they are not annoyingly simplistic and the cliches are generally 
    
        kept to a minimum. 
Every Cure album has a closing song that captures 
    the overall mood and tone of the album. This one has three 
        of them, depending on which version of the 
 album   you get. I find it appropriate, as the mood and tone of this
  
        album are SO all over the place.
  
This is the first Cure album that I don't feel 
    really reflects much about where Robert's head is these days 
  
        (unless he has truly achieved a state of 
functional     schizophrenia) but instead consists of distinctly different 
 
        attempts to evoke particular Cure styles.
 While    perhaps a bit contrived, it almost always works. Is it perfect?
No.    
        But it's still by a long shot my favourite 
 album   of the past four years. 
- Charles Perry 
          
          
IS IT A CRIME??
Yes, definietly it is, ...in the discographic 
    world, and more precisely at Geffen, there is a new Music Ripper....let 
    
        me explain...I've just bought the vinyl
version    of "the cure" (at fnac geneva)...and I promise you.....when, 3
days     
        ago I rated the new cure album...I've voted
  "somewhere   in the middle".....that it's absolutely not true.....it's
one    
        of the best cure album ever!!! but just
the   vinyl   version makes it....some hidden gems as "tgab" or "this
  
        morning"........greats songs....between
my  favourite   cure songs!!!....frankly I can't understandthe reason why 
 
        someone did such a stupid thing? which are 
 the   interests??, everyone deserve to get this masterpiece as it should 
   
        be, 15 songs this is the real "the cure".....so 
   disappointed...u can't imagine! these are my vote for each song 
   
Lost 10 
        Labirinth 8.5 
        Before Three 9.5 
        tgab  10 
        the end of the world 8 
        Anniversary 9.5 
        Us or them 7.5 
        Fake 8.5 
        alt.end 5 
        on (I don't....) 9.5 
        Taking off 6.5 
        Never     5 
 
        The Promise 8.5 
        Going Nowhere 8.5 
        This Morning 10 
- F.E. 
          
          
These are my thoughts about the new cure album. 
    
        When I listened to it for the first time 
I  was   a bit dissapointed. I think I thought of something totally different. 
 I    
        did not get an emotion. Then I got to work,
  then   came back, really tired and listened to it again and loved it. I 
    
        don't know why it did take so long. 
   
        I loved Bloodflowers immediatley but here
 it  took  some time and with every listening(got it on tuesday) i grew
   
        more into it. 
        The first 5 songs plus the last 2 (rest
of  the   world version) are really cure. I love Lost. Just a perfect beginning. 
    
        Labyrinth is perfect as well. before three 
 catches   me. The end of the world is a very good cure single. 
 
        Anniversary is perfect, a really sad cure
 song.    Us or Them. I do like this one like those other real heavy songs 
    
        of the cure(give me it, shake dog shake, 
shiver    and shake...) but the chorus is to much punk and I think the voice 
    
        is a bit too strong. alt.end is good as
well,    i  like singing it. But i hate those next 3 songs. Taking off, a
really  bad   
        clone of just like heaven. (I don't know 
what's    going) on... Maybe i would have liked it more if it were on kiss 
me.    
        It doesn't fit in here. Never, doesn't tell
  anything   to me. The promise is a mixing of The Kiss, Carnage Visors
  
        and the snakepit, lyrics are great although
  I  think  the screaming of robert during the end of the song is one more 
    
        screaming too much on the album. Going Nowhere 
   is perfect but a little short. Very sad one. like the lyrics so 
   
        much. 
All in all i have too say that I can't wait for
    the vinyl version. 
        Everybody says this morning is very good.
 And   i  also want to hear truth,goodness & beauty. Hope they are a 
    
        little slower. because although i like most
  of  the new album i think the balance what robert was talking about 
   
        isn't in this album, too much rock. So I 
hope   the  vinyl version is a bit more balanced. 
In Conclusion: THEY STILL CURE ME!
- Martin Pieters 
          
          
I bought it yesterday afternoon.  It was 
    released here in Mexico and all the morning I felt realy exited.  
 I  didnt 
        played it in my car.  In the way home 
 I  bought  some wine.  I sat down on my living room, insert the CD in
 the    
        stereo, pour some wine in a glass, relax 
and   start  listening. 
I drank the hole glass when Before Three started.  
    I hated it, I was not feeling the music, or the words, or 
        anything. The comparisions with other albums,
   with  other songs, even with other bands started. 
But I love The Cure, I´ve been loving them
    since I was 13, and Im 30 now. So I play the CD again, and again, and 
    
        again.  And I started to like it, more
  and   more every time.  Is not the best, at least yet, but its very
 good.  Its 
        different, that is a fact, still Cure but
 different.     There are songs that promise a lot.  The only thing
 that for me    
        that I think is a fact is that the lyrics
 are   repetitive  (sometimes the same as in other songs), even though the
 style   
        is fresh and modern. 
My album preferences: 
        Disintegration, Faith, KMKMKM, Pornography,
  Bloodflowers,   The Cure, Wish, THOTD, WMS, The Top, 
        Seventeen Seconds, Three Imaginary Boys, 
Japanese     Whispers 
I hope Mr Smith will do a favor to the third country
in the world that buys more Cure CD's and come to the 
        biggest city of the world (Mexico City)
and   play   a few concerts.  He forgot that the world is not only Europe
 and   
        the US. 
And as I agree tha Never is terrible, for me the worst song they ever made is The 13th.
In fact, if I had to say which one is the worst song on every album, I would say:
Disintegration--none 
        Faith--none 
        KMKMKM--Hey you 
        Pornography--none 
        Bloodflowers--Watching me fall
 
        The Cure--Never 
        Wish--Friday I´m in love
 
        THOTD--Screw 
        WMS--The 13th 
        The Top--The Top 
        Seveteen Seconds--Three 
        Three Imaginary Boys--So What 
        Japanese Whispers--Speak my language 
   
and the best:
Disintegration--Disintegration 
        Faith--The funeral party 
        KMKMKM--The snake pit 
        Pornography--The figurehead 
        Bloodflowers--Out of this world 
 
        The Cure--Anniversary 
        Wish--Frome the end of the deep green sea 
    
        THOTD--Push 
        WMS--Bare 
        The Top--Shake dog shake 
        Seveteen Seconds--Secrets 
        Three Imaginary Boys--Three imaginary boys 
    
        Japanese Whispers--Lament 
- Fernando 
          
          
All I can really say is that im glad to know that
this album doesnt sound like a "last album". Im sure most would 
    
        agree that Bloodflowers sounded like a "last 
  album",  when you first heard it. 
Maybe its just me but here seems to be the sheet
    metal sound in Before 3, that there was in Play for Today. I
  
        know you all know what i mean.
 
Promise is a very good song, Cure top 5 all time in my book. #1 100 Years of course.
One last thing, im sure most would disagree with
    me. But Jason Cooper, really makes this album strong, we have 
   
        all heard Robert before. But i know i have 
 never   heard anything like what Jason did in this album. He has come 
   
        along way in a short time (in Cure years 
that   is).  
- Eric 
          
          
I heard the VH1 version... heard the Coachella versions, and I was excited about this new disc.
I got it yesterday and have listened to it 5
times and what everyone says is true (about it growing on you).  It's 
    
        not that I didn't like it at first, it's 
just   that  I didn't expect to like it as much as I do in just a day.
   
The first time I heard Lost, I was like, "Have 
    they gone retarded?"  Now I can't get enough of the song - it's 
    
        always in my head - what an amazing build-up!  
    Labyrinth is <b>fucking awesome!</b>  Before Three just
    has 
        you gliding along and I think The End of 
the   World  is the best single since Lovesong - it's the catchiness. 
  
        Anniversary gives you what you want from 
The   Cure,  creepy, weird love.  Us or Them - Hellllooooo Simon! 
  
        Can't wait to see him playing that with
his   mohawk.    alt.end - I love this song - mix Let's Go To Bed with
Never   
        Enough with In Your House and you get a
brilliant     sound!  (I Don't Know What's Going) On I didn't like at
first,     
        but now I hear it as a lost song from KMKMKM 
  -  "oo-oooooo!".  Taking Off - a great hanging out with your 
   
        best friend song.  Never - the 3rd
"Yeah,    yeah, yeah!" has me addicted and it's a totally new approach -
Rock    
        on!  Never needs no explanation. 
  Can'   t wait to get my Japanese! version in the mail!!!!! 
- Marc 
          
          
Well, I finally had the chance to sit down with
    the four "additional" songs on my vinyl copy of "The Cure"
        (kudos to my local independant music store 
 "Pure   Pop" in Burlington, VT for actually stocking the vinyl 
 
        version!), and I must say, I think they
are   my  favorite four songs on the entire "album". Pure CURE!
        Melodic.....keyboards......acoustic guitars.....wistful 
    Robert vocals. Each song not out of place on Bloodflowers or 
  
        even Disintegration. Again, why these weren't
   included  on the American CD is a crime. Just goes to show that the
   
        marketing of this album is not directed
toward    older fans!! Find the songs by import, vinyl or CD single. You
won't     
        be disappointed! 
- Dave Parker 
          
          
Goddamn that's nice!  That's my words for
    the new album.  How wonderful is "Anniversary?"  I played it
 for   my 
        wife (who by some bizarre medical condition
  that   I'm having looked into doesn't like The Cure) and she cried and 
    
        told me she thought it was a beautiful song.  
    In my opinion that makes it a powerful song.  Right now it's my 
    
        favorite, but that's subject to change. 
   "Lost"  and "Before Three" were great to hear from the studio (I was at 
    
        Coachella and got to hear them there).  
  I  seem to be having the same reaction to this album that I had everytime 
    
        I heard something new from Bob and the boys
  these   past 16 years of fandom.  At first, 3-4 songs just grab me
and    
        I find myself listening multiple times. 
   Then  I force myself to give the whole album some time and of course,
I     
        end up digging 99.9% of all Cure tracks.  
   Anyhow, enough ramblings. 
- Dave 
          
          
I have listened to the album 10 times now, the
    minimum I allowed myself before posting a review. I think there 
    
        are classic Cure moments here, and that
in  general   the album does a great job at assimilating new Cure sounds 
 
        into the old Cure pattern. It’s as though
 for   each  song they take fragments of several Cure songs and weave them 
   
        into a new tapestry. It’s very interesting.
  Gone   are the lengthy intros (depending on your version), and the mixing 
    
        can be a little challenging to deal with 
sometimes     - vocals mixed on top of the songs rather than within the songs. 
    
        However, the live recording gives it a raw 
 energy   that is refreshing, if a bit jolting sometimes. Also, the album 
    
        suffers a bit from disjointedness - there’s
  not   that coherent/cohesive feeling as there was on Bloodflowers or 
    
        really all other Cure albums. Yet, that
flaw   is  rather charming - it’s a hodgepodge of loosely related songs that 
    
        tell the whole story of the Cure in a fresh
  medium.   
My thoughts on each song attempting to resist comparisons, and then the Inevitable Comparisons:
The very good
Lost - Melodic punk. Contains what I can only 
    describe as euphoric anger. I love the trudging start and how it 
    
        builds to a potent climax and noisy finish.
  I  bask  in the oppressive power of Rob’s screaming. INEVITABLE
  
        COMPARISON: The dark anger of Porno meets
 up  with  the dissonance of The Top for coffee and cigarettes,
 
        and they decide to make some Cure moonshine, 
  adding  new ingredients for a toxic mix. 
Labyrinth - Psychedelic rock with luscious swirls
    of Middle Eastern sounds. Break out the incense, Moroccan
        tapestry, and, most importantly, the bong! 
 (That   is, if you smoke, which I don’t anymore). I adore this song, and 
    
        it has the best lyrics on the album. INEVITABLE 
   COMPARISON: Wailing Wall and Jimmy Hendrix take a trip 
        to the North African desert, and jam under 
 the   stars amidst a stand storm. 
alt.end - I was prepared to hate this given all
    the negativity. But I am truly surprised it’s not more popular. I 
    
        love the bouncy bass and and the somewhat
 buried    psychedelic guitar solo. It’s quirky yet catchy. INEVITABLE
 
        COMPARISON: In your House kidnapped From 
the   Edge  of the Deep Sea and Doing the Unstuck, handcuffed 
        them to the bed, and made passionate love
 to  them  all night long. 
(I Don’t Know What’s Going) On: (I Really Do Love
This) Song. It’s rambling and abstract and quirky and 
        lyrically repetitive, elements which could 
 be  potential  drawbacks, yet mixed together somehow make for an
  
        interesting and rather tasty stew, at least
  for   me. INEVITABLE COMPARISON: Um, not sure yet....anyone?
        Anyone? 
Taking Off: Cure-pop at its brightest, yet it
    has a sad and even slightly aggressive undertone. I love the naive 
    
        romance of the lyrics, and how Rob complements 
   the upbeat music with a giddy voice. INEVITABLE 
        COMPARISON: Mint Car collides head on with 
 JLH;   they emerge unharmed from the crash and hitch a ride 
        with Friday I’m in Love and Inbetween Days. 
    
Before Three - Yeah, it was better live at Coachella,
    but it’s still damn good here. The vocals are mixed on top of 
   
        the song, which is problematic. But it has 
 a  great  dreamy melody, and I love the teenaged energy with which Rob
   
        sings it. 
The good
The Promise - Break out the bongs again. An epic
    almost-classic Cure trip through the hallucinating halls of
 
        psychedelia again. The trippy bass and clashy
   sounds  and meandering structure and Rob’s plaintive wail compete
   
        with and complement each other quite charmingly, 
    if cacophonously. I will probably grow to love it more as time 
    
        unfolds. INEVITABLE COMPARISON: The Kiss 
call   up  Led Zeppelin, the Doors and Mogwai and ask them to 
        come over for a jam session. They come late, 
  smoke  lots of weed, and jam into the early dawn. 
EOTW: It sounds better within the context of the
album than it does as a single. It’s good Cure-pop, but the 
        generic guitars grate on my nerves a bit.
 I  think   it would be top-notch Cure-pop with those distinctive Cure guitars. 
    
        INEVITABLE COMPARISON: Maybe Someday travels 
  back  in time to Boys Don’t Cry, and along the way 
        picks up Cut Here, Fascination St., and
Blink-182     for the trip. 
Anniversary - This one had to grow on me. It has
a gloomy romantic atmosphere, but at first I thought Rob’s 
        vocals were too low. Now I hear that they
 fit   within  the brooding aura of the song. I love how the keyboards make
   
        it sound gothic-cathedral-like. The clapping 
  drums  really ground this song. INEVITABLE COMPARISON: 
        Bloodflowers meets up with Drowning Man
in  a  dark  alley and together they steal some keyboards and
        atmosphere from Head on the Door. 
  
The maybe
Us or Them - I waver violently on this song. I
hate it one minute and love it the next. When Robert was initially 
    
        planning on making the heaviest album ever,
  I  was  very excited to hear Cure-metal. But, after hearing this song, 
    
        I’m not sure whether that idea would completely 
   work or not. INEVITABLE COMPARISON: Give Me It Meets 
        AC/DC. And I do love AC/DC. 
The not-so-good
Never - Never Mind is more like it. Something 
    in this song wants me to like it. And something in me wants to like 
    
        this song. But I’m afraid this song lacks
 Cure-soul.INEVITABLE    COMPARISON: Never searches high and low
 
        for inspiration from past Cure albums. It
 fails    to find any, so searches for inspiration from anywhere. Again,
it  fails    
        to find any. So it pouts, because it realizes
   that  its existence, indeed, sucks. 
The extras (so far heard on MP3 only)
Going Nowhere: Dreamily beautiful. Positively 
    aching mix of guitar, piano and bass. The song’s brief length lends 
    
        it a stunning power. INEVITABLE COMPARISON:
  DisintegrationThe   Album has a drink with Bloodflowers 
        The Album at a smoky cafe; it’s open mic-nite, 
   and they decide to perform this song together. 
TGaB - The vocals are a bit too disembodied from
    this otherwise gorgeous song. I do like the music and the
        rambling “structureless structure” of the
 song,    but feel that it would benefit from re-mixing in order to achieve
 its    
        latent brilliance. INEVITABLE COMPARISON:
 Pictures    of You goes on vacation to a fetching spot and sends a
 
        lovely postcard of this song. The song in
 the   postcard  is nearly as beautiful as the actual song, but a bit marred
 by    
        the photographer’s over-eagerness to capture 
  the  beauty of the actual song. 
I think it’s a sick crime that Robert let Geffen 
    get away with excluding these last two beautiful songs from the US 
    
        CD, and from what I understand,This Morning
  is  lovely as well. But, overall, I’m still very very happy. It’s like 
   
        The Top meets Kiss Me meets the Heaviest 
Album    Ever Made. I would give the album between an 8 and a 9 at 
        this point, and it’s rare for me to like 
it  so  immediately, as it took years for some Cure albums to grow on me. 
   
- Alison Ross 
          
          
Lost- Ok song, for sure the worst opening album 
    I have ever heard. very bloodflowerish but grows on me each 
 
        time. I will pass with the next button at
 moments'    Post release Good song with headphones, and love the lyrics
 
Labyrinth- makes me feel a little kisss me. I like it.
Before three- My most favorite off the album.. 
    Reminds me of a night like this mixed with a few songs of wish 
    
        Reminds me of a song from BF mixeed with 
a  lot   of other albums. Reminds me of where the birds don't sing mixed 
   
        with maybe someday 
The End of the world- at first sound of this song
when I first heard it on Leno made me worry. It has grown on me 
    
        over the weeks, and I am finding a place 
in  my  life where it fits 
Anniversary-love this song. Its got an early cure sound redone to the 2000 style.
Us and then- not a favorite but its hard to hate
    any cure song. Reminds me of 39.(bloodflowrs, and a lil (2nd song 
    
        bf) Did I say BLODDFLOWERS? 
        Edit - Post listen on headphones. Lyrics 
are   good  and I find a relationship with them. Withthe lyrics the music 
fits     
        in. its still soo BF 
Alt-end. IN YOUR HOUSEish. Great sound and a
little more cure incorporated with the new/old style that Robert
 
        can exert. Maybe a lil wish influence?  
  Edit,  now I can hear lets go to bed. 
On- I like this song. simple, and just very happy sounding! a single?
taking off- SKIP Reminds me of WMS
Never- no opinion yet. A little hard for the cure?!
The Promise Love the dark sound of this song. 
    Opening is great. Roberts howl is ORGASMIC. Guitar is great, 
  
        sounds very disintegrationish.Good ending
 for   an  album! 
Over all I am just Grateful for a Cure release. 
    The CD version is much better than the streaming version that I 
    
        listened to many times the past week. 
    
Out of  ***** 
        I give it ***1/2 
- Peter (bloodflowers12) 
          
          
Non riesco proprio a comprendere le grandi critiche
    piovute da tutte le parti, tutti dicono che sia una copia di
  
        WMS, ma non comprendo assolutamente come 
sia   possibile  operare un paragone con quell'album: quello del '96 
  
        era davvero un album mediocre, tolte le
poche    canzoni  stile cure, questo è un album che comunque trovo
compatto     
        anche nella diversità di stile che
 scorre    l'album. Le canzoni hanno un non so che di fresco,  ed allo
 stesso  tempo  
        di ben curato. Se proprio vogliamo definirle 
  pop  alcune di esse, credo sia il migliore pop che i cure abbiano
   
        prodotto da quando esistano e la ricetta 
sta   forse  nella sua voce fresca e gridata più che mai insieme al 
mixtum     
        di chitarra basso e batteria, ordinate quanto
   mai.  Allora delle due l'una: o io sono uscito pazzo musicalmente
   
        parlando o forse chi si ostina a considerare 
  quest'album  un album mediocre e fantasma del passato, sicuramente 
  
        è ancorato ad un'idea dei cure che
 ormai    farebbe bene a superare: smettiamola di considerarli i padri di
chissà    
        quale musica, i cure sono affascinanti anche 
  per  questo, per aver creato un album che non ha paragoni con 
 
        nessun'altro e con degli spunti musicali 
di  notevole   spessore, e per averlo fatto dopo 25 anni di carriera.
  
Cosa avremmo voluto, un altro disintegration? 
    quest'ultimo è unico anche perchè è rimasto senza 
 un  bis mediocre, 
        senza alcuna replica. Abbiamo avuto disintegration, 
    pornography, faith, bloodflowers, ed abbiamo quest'ultimo, 
        che è giustamente diverso dagli altri 
  ma  allo stesso tempo noevole. Ed è forse un'emozione tutta mia l'aver
    
        considerato quest'album ben riuscito, forse
  musicalmente   sono cresciuto anche io come Robert e gli altri? Chi lo
  
        sa? O forse hanno semplicemente ragione
i  fans   che avrebbero voluto un disco interamente circondato dalle
 
        atmosfere di lost o going nowhere. Ascoltare 
  dal  vivo le nuove canzoni e tra di esse The drowning man, 
        Closedown, Charlotte sometimes, Jupiter
crash    e  Sinking, è stato emozionante ed intenso, ma evidentemente 
    
        c'era chi, forse la maggior parte, avrebbe 
 voluto   sentire un ennesimo concerto stile Berlino. Si, evidentemente 
   
        sono cambiato io, ma da vecchio fan dei
Cure   sono  orgoglioso di quest'ultimo loro lavoro e della circostanza che 
    
        nel mio cambiamento in peggio siano coinvolti
   anche  i Cure, protagonisti in peggio ( per molti ) di un album che
   
        considero un gran bel lavoro, condivendo 
in  pieno   la solita frase d'occasione di Robert secono cui se non piace 
   
        quest'album non piacciono i cure: mai frase
  fu  più azzeccata. 
- Luka 
          
          
My opinion on 'The Cure' (albeit after just a
    few listens) is its a strong album, maybe not all I was hoping for but 
    
        still pretty impressive. There are some
real   killer  songs here (Lost, The Promise, Truth Goodness and Beauty) 
  
        then there are the underwhelming songs (Never
   and  Taking Off) One of the negative points is that the weaker
   
        songs are bunched together which damages 
the   album  somewhat more than perhaps it should. The tracklisting 
 
        seems wrong Robert! Deep down there is a 
great    album here, I am sure of it, and maybe I will think so after more 
   
        plays. I also think its gonna take time
to  get   used to the rawness of Roberts voice on some of the songs (Us or 
   
        Them in particular). There are very few
Cure   albums  that I have liked after the first couple of listens though
so    
        I'm hoping I will grow to love it...my EARLY 
  opinions  on each song : 
Lost - Angry Cure. Probably my favourite on the
    album. I love the intensity in Roberts voice and how the song 
   
        builds into a clattering cruscendo. I had
 been   dying to hear the studio version since Coachella and while I think 
   
        this song is better live, its still one
of  the   highlights here for me. 9/10 
Labyrinth - A good (great?) song ruined for me
    by the crappy voice effects. It has a kind of Eastern feel to it 
    
        which The Cure have explored (rarely) over 
 the   years, its a very confident sounding track...I would have loved it 
   
        alot more though without the voice effects,
  they   are not necessary! Perhaps I will get used to them! 7/10
  
Before Three - Beautiful lyrics over dreamy layered
    guitars. It reminds me of  a faster paced Letter to Elise, a 
    
        pop song which isn't a pop song, a similar 
 feeling...except   not as good obviously. A catchy song, but possibly too 
 
        lengthy to be a single and it doesn’t have 
 that   killer hook which you’re wanting to happen. It is however very 
    
        welcome change in mood after the rather
heavy    first  2 songs. 7.5/10 
Truth Goodness and Beauty - One of the best songs
    on the album and I sympathise with the poor bastards who 
        only get the American tracklisting cd. It
 should    be on all versions. Screw Geffen! I agree with another reviewer 
    
        that it has a kind of Pictures of You feel 
 to  it.  Roberts singing here is quite stunning. This song is up there with 
    
        the Cure's best work. THIS is classic Cure.
  9/10   
The End of the World - Great song, this is the
    best single and video that The Cure have released since WMS,
  
        maybe even Wish. I was worried it would
stick    out  like a sore thumb but it fits in well in the first half of
the album.     
        " I couldn't love you more chorus" couldn't
  be  more catchy. 8/10 
Anniversary - The start of this song reminds me
of Cocteau Twins 'Otherness EP' - unexpected yet intruiging 
        use of sparse beats. A kind of modern day
 Lament.    Touching lyrics, a really lovely song 8/10 
Us or Them - Without doubt the heaviest Cure song
ever recorded. Makes Give Me It and Shiver and Shake 
        look wussy. I'm not sure wether I like it
 or  not.  The first time I loved it, the second time....not so much. For
the    
        first time ever I find Roberts voice kind
 of  grating  here. I bet Ross Robinson was masturbating over this one in 
  
        the studio, particularly the chorus, fuck
 fuck   fuck!! Definitely a RR touch 6.5/10 
Alt.End - In Your House version 2! (not a bad 
    thing at all seeing as In Your House is one of my all time faves) 
    
        only this song does not spark the same emotions 
   (not yet) Great music, great guitar riff, great beats...lyrics don’t 
    
        seem to match. 7.5/10 
I Don't Know Whats Going On - A cute little pop
    song, a nice dreamy vocal reminiscent of Kiss Me era.... 
        elements of 'To The Sky' in here. I hope 
this   is  a single. Oh…nice ‘Hey You’ extended mix ending ;)  7/10 
   
Taking Off - If this is meant to be the big hit
    single from the album then I think alot of people will be disappointed. 
    
        It does not have the catchiness, it doesn't
  have   the playfulness, it just does not compete with the classic Cure
pop     
        songs. Not impressed with this song after
 the   first  couple of listens, sounds like A Pink Dream which is great...for 
    
        a B-SIDE! I must admit it gets better with 
 more   listens… 6/10 
Never – Cock Rock. Not good enough to warrant 
    a place on this album. Didn't think it was that bad at first, 
   
        however the more I listen to it the more 
it  sucks.   Hopefully better live 5/10 
The Promise - Fantastic track! This is the epic
    that the album, up to this point, is crying out for. A combination of 
    
        all what makes The Cure the best band in 
the   world.  Lyrics that send a shiver down your spine, spiralling guitars 
   
        and epic drums complete with Roberts passionate 
   vocal...all the best elements combine here. Fabulous and you 
 
        would think a perfect ending 9/10 
  
Going Nowhere - Just when you thought the album 
    was over you get this nice 3 and a half minute piano-led 
        acoustic ballad. Its quite a nice change 
as  The   Promise is quite clearly a perfect close to the album. Maybe
  
        Robert wanted to suprise us. After the indifference 
    of the album this is a pleasant end to the album. 8.5/10 
So overall I would rate it about a 7.5 maybe 8
out of 10, but as I say I have only heard it a few times and its not 
    
        enough really. I think its a more challenging
   album  than the excellent Bloodflowers which I loved from the
  
        beginning. 'The Cure' is not so easy for 
me  to  like straight away but its getting better with each listen. It is 
   
        definately a step in the right direction...its 
   just that, rightly or wrongly, I was expecting this to be the perfect Cure
    
        album. And its not perfect of course. Still...I 
   can't wait to hear the songs live. 
- Tom Johnson 
          
          
Got the vinyl and cd/dvd at amoeba here in l.a.
    geffen is certainly raking it in today, good for them. no luck on 
    
        the import version yet. but i'll tell ya,
 take   off "never" and add "going nowhere" and "this morning" and you 
   
        have a really damn good album. i don't know
  who   the idiot is at geffen that decided on the u.s. cd track list (it 
    
        couldn't REALLY have been robert that did
 this,    could it?) but the vinyl feels much more complete. 
not too convinced on "fake" yet. "truth goodness 
    and beauty" is pretty but seems to go nowhere. but "going 
        nowhere" could have gone on disintegration,
  and   "this morning" is growing on me by the  minute. and "(i don't 
    
        know what's going) on"? when i read the
lyrics,    i was thinking OH BROTHER, but it's such a happy, pretty little 
   
        song, almost like a head on the door b side. 
    
much better than i had any reason to hope!
- Scott Otto 
          
          
Got it. 
        Been listening to it. 
        Sounds much better than the "preview" streams
   I'd  listened to a few times.... 
On a scale of 1 -10, it gets a 7.
I don't love it.  I like it.  It's 'okay.'
It's a transitional album, at best, and in that respect, it's acceptable, 
    and even 
        enjoyable.  The "transition" I speak
 of  involves  the new producer, the new way of working, the new American 
  
        commercialized record label, the new attempt 
  to  garner a legion of young fans....and so on.  A lot of the album 
    
        sounds like a more interesting, dynamic
version    of "Watching Me Fall"  which was an ambitious effort, but 
   
        ultimately a rather boring song.  Also, 
  some  of the album sounds like out-takes from "Wild Mood Swings." 
  
Lost, Labyrinth & Before Three = This triptych 
    of songs makes the album good for me.  This is classic cure, 
    
        and 'new' cure amalgamating beautifully. 
    
The End of the World = Eh. It's very over-produced, it's too slick, it's a bit contrived.
Anniversary = Someone said: "We ought to put one
of those slower, heavier, keyboard-laden, atmospheric 
        tracks on, yes?" And that's pretty much
what   they  did.  "Apart" is much better. 
Us or Them = Why is this song even on the album?  
    Ii'm glad Robert is angry, he yells well, but Siouxsie and the 
    
        Banshees were ultimately more fascinating
 with   their political paeans.  "The Ghost in You" and "Rhapsody" are 
   
        two such examples. 
alt.end = Do we need another song about robert 
    wanting to be "done" with his band?   Wasn't "Bloodflowers" 
    
        an exhausting enough statement as such?   
    (And a much better one, I might add) 
(I Don't Know What's Going) On = I like this one a lot.
Taking Off & Never = Um. Well..... How bout 'taking (them) off' the album and 'never' hearing them again?
The Promise = Loses its effect after a few minutes. I lose interest. I like it, but it just....kind of fades....
**  The Japanese import version is on its
    way to me, I am looking forward to the bonus tracks.  I hear they
 are   
        wonderful. 
I dare say their next effort (seeing as they've signed a three-record deal) will be a lot better than this.
- Tim C. 
          
          
I obtained my copy of the album this morning and
I have to say it is growing on me.  I know some fans having 
    
        been crying about how bad this album is, 
but   when  I listened to the actual album I found myself enjoying it. 
  
        When I was first listening to the album
on  the   net there were songs that I had mixed feelings about, but now that 
    
        I have the actual album I am enjoying it 
more   and  more with each listen.  I admit I don't think it is the best
album    
        ever but I do think it is a great listening
  experience.    Never is still crap and The Promise is too long, but
 overall I   
        think the new album is really good. 
 I  was   disappointed in the DVD though.  I thought it would have interviews 
   with  
        the band and Ross, but it is basically the 
 instrumental   versions of Lost, and The Promise playing while showing 
 
        the band preparing to record.  The
DVD   does   however show the band recording Truth, Goodness and Beauty and 
    
        I really liked that song.  As far as
 the   album  goes I would say right now my favorites are Lost, Labyrinth,
 Before    
        Three, and Anniversary.  Other good 
ones   are  The End Of The World, Us Or Them, and The Promise.  I have 
    
        mixed feelings about alt.end, (I Don't Know
  What's   Going) On, and Taking Off.  Never should have never made 
   
        it pass the demo stage.  I am really
 looking    forward to the bonus tracks because like I said TG&B was
really  a    
        great song. 
- Joey Nabors 
          
          
Im not going to review the album, i think its 
    been done enough, but the dvd is another story, i read a review 
    
        earlier that totally tore it apart. well 
i  disagree,   maybe its because im a musican myself but i find in studio 
video     
        quite cool, and the complaint that the quality 
   sucks, well you take your home camera and make a better looking 
   
        video, it all goes back to the idea of the 
 album   being new and something different from the others, thats why i dont 
    
        like to compare it to the others, because
 its   a  new album, and yeah after hearing Truth Goodness & Beauty,
i  do    
        think the us got ripped off  of an
awesome    track, but i think its totally worth the extra 3 dollars to get
the dvd.     
- Joshua Wilcox 
          
          
Just a few thoughts here... 
        i've been a fan for about 20 years now and 
 after   having read most of these reviews i find myself agreeing with most 
    
        of you on all of it. in other words i can
 see   where  you are coming from. no need to rehash it all. 
but when i think back to buying 'the top', 'hotd',
    'kmkmkm' etc. on or near their respective release dates i always 
    
        had two or three songs that i just couldn't
  stand.   yes kids, even the sacred 'disintegration' has a few blah moments 
    
        in my opinion. in fact, for me, 'faith'
is  the   only perfect cure album! that's just me of course. music is different 
 to    
        everyone. this new album is classic cure.
 i  skip   a few along the way but overall still enjoy the ride. can't wait
 for  the   
        b-sides. (am i the only here who listened
 to  side  b of 'standing on the beach' on tape more than side a?). ...long
 live    
        'the cure'! 
i give it 7/10... or should i say 8 out of 11???
- Bennion 
          
          
At first, a preamble: I think that the post-Wish 
    Cure are not at the same level of the old ones. I didn’t like WMS 
    
        and Bloodflowers as the precedent albums.
 In  particular  I found Bloodflowers pretentious in the attempt to emulate 
  
        “Disintegration” –  the real dark trilogy 
   is seventeen seconds-faith-pornography… 
        But I think that Bloodflowers is a step
forward    from WMS and this new album is a step forward from Bloodflowers 
   
        so…the trend is positive… 
Lost: Very different from the classic Cure opening
    songs with long instrumental intros. Anyway the song grows in 
   
        a “crescendo” of intensity, but my impression
   is  that it misses a real climax. (6/7) 
Labyrinth: my favourite, by now, together with 
    “Going nowhere”. The most complete song of the album, deep, 
 
        powerful, involving. Great bass line, good 
 vocal   effects. A light eastern influence, a light but appropriate use of
    
        electronics. (8) 
Before three: I agree with the ones who told that
the live version at the Coachella Festival was much better 
        because of a certain shade of melancholy,
 absent    here. This studio version is poppier. Good song, anyway. I love 
    
        when Robert’s voice goes up and down on
“alive”…     (7) 
TEOTW: The worse, together with “Never”… Too pop
for me, even if I really like the video. Someone already 
        rightly observed  that the “oooooo
eeeee    ooooo”  chorus is a “cut and paste” from Siouxie and the Banshees.
(4,5)     
Anniversary: The beginning is very evocative and
reminds me of “New day” (as the final sound of the song 
        reminds me of “The snakepit”). I think this
  song   could have been developed better, I don’t like the changing
  
        starting on “one endless moment…”. However 
 very   good song, with great keyboards at last. (7) 
Us or them: Angry song, powerful. But I prefer 
    “Cut” or “Shiver and shake”, for example… Lyrics are political? 
    
        Who knows? I’ve always liked the fact that 
 Robert    doesn’t write political lyrics. But how many shouts here and
 in    
        the whole album!!…I think too many…(6,5) 
    
alt.end: an ordinary fair pop song. Not bad, but
nothing special… Yeah, there’re six billion beautiful pop songs 
    
        like this, but I listened to them all before... 
   The end of the song is confused. (6) 
IDKWGO: very very pop, but more incisively pop.
    I like the refrain and the falsetto voice…it reminds me of an 
   
        old b-side I can’t identify by the moment. 
 Probably   it’s a light point the album needs. (6/7) 
Taking off: the not-so-good sister of Friday I’m
in love… Not bad, but in the wish period this song would have 
        been finished among the b-sides. Anyway
a  step   forward from “Mint car”, “Maybe someday”, “Cut here” and
 
        things like these… (6,5) 
Never: the lowest point of the album, together 
    with the single. Drums are powerful, but this song has no 
        atmosphere, not a definite shape. (4) 
    
The promise: Very good song with traditional cure
sound. But maybe this is also its defect: I mean that this song 
    
        seems a sort of exercise of cure-mannerism.
  It  seems the cure that want to sound as the cure... I don’t know if 
   
        I’ve been able to explain.... However it’s 
 a  very  good song, born to fit live. It reminds me of “Sinking” and “End”. 
    
        (7,5) 
Going nowhere: here is finally the moving side 
    of the cure!! Emotions at last!! I really can’t understand why they 
    
        cut it out from the US version! No valid 
motivation     is possible! (8) 
All in all, the kind of this album is similar 
    to “KMKMKM” and The head on the door. But “The Cure” misses 
 
        very great masterpieces (KMKMKM has “The 
kiss”,    “Just like heaven”, “How beautiful you are”, “The 
        snakepit”…; THOTD has “Push” and “A night
 like   this”) even if “Labyrinth” and “Going nowhere” are great.
 
        But if I had to do a cure-best compilation 
 with   20 songs I would not put in any song from the last three albums, 
    
        maybe just “Want”. 
I give it 7 (I give 6 to WMS just thank’s to Want,
I give 6,5 to Bloodflowers, 10 to Disintegration -if more is 
        impossible- and 9,5  to Wish just because 
   Disintegration has a 10…) 
Some words ‘bout the lyrics: they are too ordinary… 
    I agree with the one who asked “where is the cure traditional 
   
        symbolism?!” Best Cure albums have great 
lyrics.     
Last thought: I really don’t like the existence 
    of different versions of the album for the different markets. Is it a 
    
        cure’s fault or just a label’s fault? Can’t
  really   Mr Smith do anything to avoid this kind of stupid choices?!
  
- Francesco 
          
          
I just got the album yesterday, and I love it!
    For my first listen I made sure I was lying on the living room floor, 
    
        with the volume up so I could feel the bass
  through   the floorboards, and I closed my eyes to lose myself in the
  
        music... 
I'd heard 'Lost' a lot already, because of the
    iTunes download, so the impact of that was slightly reduced, but I 
    
        think it's an amazing song anyway! The way 
 it  builds  from almost a whisper to a screaming crescendo is fantastic
   
        - and it gave me a crescendo of excitement 
 for   the new songs I had never heard before. 
'Labyrinth' lived up to that excitement, and I thought it was very impressive. I love the drums and driving bass!
'Before Three' was better than the Coachella version,
in my opinion. But maybe that's because people have 
        already said they thought it was worse... 
    
'Truth, Goodness and Beauty' lived up to its name,
and it's a shame it's not on all versions of the album. The lyrics 
    
        and one of the guitar lines are exactly
as  they   appear on 'Scratch' (on the bonus DVD), but overall the song
  
        sounds much better. 
I'd heard 'The End Of The World' too many times 
    to really appreciate it as part of the album, and the only thing 
    
        that stood out to me was the quality of
the   proper   CD version and the extra 'ooo-eee-ooo' bit. But I still love
the     
        song. 
'Anniversary' is currently my favourite song on
the album, and maybe one of my favourite Cure songs! It has 
        such a great atmospheric sound...it would
 make   an excellent film soundtrack... very powerful! 
I thought 'Us Or Them' was great - it's obligatory 
    for bands to make their voice heard against Bush and Blair in 
   
        these troubling times, but this song does
 it  in  a very satisfying way, which echoes my own feelings exactly, so
I  felt    
        a particularly strong emotional connection 
 to  it.  
I don't understand why people don't like 'alt.end'... 
    what's wrong with it?? Great guitar, great sound, and with 
        depth too... again, maybe people's negativity
   has  influenced me, but I loved it! One of my favourite songs on the 
    
        album in fact! 
'(I Don't Know What's Going) On' was a nice summery
    song. I imagine it would sound great if you listened to it
        outside on an English summer evening, as 
the   sun  starts to set and it starts getting colder... although that's the
    
        best time to listen to so many Cure songs! 
    
'Taking Off' was actually a slight disappointment, 
    as I expected it to be MORE poppy than it was! But on my 
        second listen I liked it much more. First
 impressions    are never really reliable! But that's all I can say about
this    
        one really... 
I think I DO understand why people don't like 
    'Never'. It's a very unusual style for the Cure. But I prefer it to 
    
        'Gone!', 'Wendy Time' and 'Screw', and probably 
   some other album tracks I haven't thought of, so that's enough 
   
        for me. I imagine it will grow on me too 
-  I  want  it to! 
'The Promise' surprised me only in that the opening
    guitar line was much quieter than the Coachella version, but
  
        that was actually a welcome change, as I 
found    that 'riff' a little repetitive after a few listens. But the songs 
was     
        as great as I expected it to be. Very powerful 
   and loud! 
Finally, 'Going Nowhere' was a lovely song, and
    a nice peaceful end to the album. But I'm not entirely sure it 
    
        makes a better album closer than 'The Promise'... 
    it's a bit like switching 'To Wish Impossible Things' and 'End' 
    
        on 'Wish'... which might work I suppose... 
 but   it's enough to know that Robert Smith envisions the album as 
 
        closing with 'Going Nowhere', so that's
the   way   it should be! 
If I was to try to compare the feeling I had after
first listening, I think it's similar to when 'Wish' came out - that 
    
        I'd heard loads of great songs, including
 some   really interesting ones, that I couldn't wait to listen to it again,
 and    
        that I wouldn't be listening to anything 
else   for  a couple of weeks! I love 'Wild Mood Sings' and 'Bloodflowers', 
    
        but 'WMS' did leave me feeling slightly
disappointed     on first listen, and 'Bloodflowers' was more of a knowing 
        nod of appreciation than an emotional reaction. 
    
So overall I was very impressed, and some of the
songs will probably go into my top ten list before long. I just 
    
        want to get out of work so I can listen
to  it  again!!!  
- Matt Deacon 
          
          
I got my copy of the Cure just after midnite here
in Atlanta at Tower records.  I bought the deluxe cd and I had 
    
        to pick up the vinyl after hearing all the 
 great   reviews for "Going Nowhere". 
Lost 
        I continue to like this song.  There
 is  really  no other Cure song like it. Roberts voice continually growing
 louder    
        and more passionate throughout the song.  
   Its just great to hear him use his voice like this and to know he still 
 can   
        use it! 
Labyrinth, 
        so far probably my least favorite on the 
album    at second listen.  lots of drums, reminds me a little of Burn 
with  a   
        little bit of eastern influence. Not bad,  
   I just prefer more flowing melody and rythm from the guitars and 
    
        keyboard. 
Before Three 
        One of my favorites.  This song has 
the   continous  flowing melodies I so love in the music of the Cure.  
The   bass   
        parts are just perfect.  Robert also
 explores    the boundaries of his voice very nicely here.  A fantastic
 Cure    
        song.  Cant wait to hear it live. 
    
Truth Goodness and Beauty 
        Excellent the first time and growing fast.  
    Short intro, vocals start almost immediately.  Sounds like it could 
   have  
        come from The Kiss me or Disintegration
Era.      Great vocals  once again.  The first time Robert
sings the word     
        beautiful he holds it for at least ten seconds 
   and this is when the song truly begins for me. Nice lyrics and more 
    
        of the sound we recognize as being The Cure.  
    Another fantastic song. 
TEOTW 
        From the first time I heard this song I
thought    it was a very "Cure" song, and I still do.  Nothing else
on the     
        album sounds like this.  reminds me 
of  spilt   milk, which is in a world all its own, and I would be willing 
to say the   
        same about this song.  A good song. 
    
Anniversary 
        I really like how this song starts. 
 It  builds  to that great flowing melody that I love, but I feel myself
wanting   this   
        song to explode into something more but
it  doesnt   seem to do it and then it seems like it ends out of  nowhere. 
 A    
        good song. 
Us or Them 
        Perhaps another song I might be able to
do  without.    Cant say much about it right now, only that its not
what  I 
        want to hear from the Cure.  An okay
 song.    
Fake 
        Another song that sounds like it could have
  been   left over from Disintegration or Kiss me.  Good but not as 
    
        pleasing as ...Beauty or before three.  
  Excellent  lyrics.  This song has that sound... 
Alt. End 
        Another okay Cure song, not a favorite. 
    
(I dont Know... 
        A fun Cure song.  Roberts vocal highs 
 are   excellent here, though the vocals are a bit repetitive. The music sounds
    
        like its doing the wrong thing sometimes 
but   it  sounds good.  I guess Im just looking for something else. A
great     
        song. 
Taking Off 
        hmmm...havent heard it enough yet 
  
Never 
        Heavy Cure.  Reminds me of  Cut
 from   Wish.  Fast Guitar Melodies. Once again not what I look for
in  a Cure    
        song.  ...An okay song.
The Promise 
        a good song to end the Cd on or perhaps
a  show.     Similar to End from Wish.  Im listening to it now
and  Im thinking    
        about End. 
Going Nowhere 
        Absolutely fucking Fantastic!  Beautiful
   flowing,  sorrowfu,l melodies. You're right Craig...TOO SHORT!  This 
    
        song is what I love about the Cure's Music.  
    This is what I long for from a Cure song.  The whole band is 
    
        utilized brilliantly!  Would be amazing 
  to  hear live.  ...the perfect way to end a show. 
This Morning 
        I think this song is equally as good as
Going    nowhere  when it comes to utilizing the band and expressing the
   
        sound of the Cure.  Reminds me of Faith,
   Untitled,  A chain of Flowers.Another excellent song to end a show.
   
        Fantastic Song! 
If you like the Cure you have to get these other
    songs that arent included on the US release.  The Full or Vinyl 
    
        version must be what all the journalists 
heard    when they reported about the new album.The US release doesnt live 
   
        up to all that hype about the best thing 
since    Disintegration, but with the four other songs, it does! 
- Steven Mlynarski 
          
          
I grew up with the Cure. The first concert I
saw was in 1981. 23 years later i still follow them. But i'm getting more 
    
        and more disappointed about their music. 
Too   much  the same 
The Cure is repeating herself. All the new songs
    could have stand on former CD's. The only new thing is maybe
  
        the sound....more raw and direct....probably 
  the  influence of Ross. Before 3 is the real Cure, not new....the rest... 
    
        i've heard before! 
But the biggest deception and disappointment for
me was the DVD....the look in the recording studio.... 
        I had the most fantastic visions in my head
  about   Smith & Co taping their music.....dark, beer, expressive, 
   
        emotional etc.. 
What a shock when you see the DVD: a very clean 
    studio, all members very passive and sitting upon a chair and 
   
        Robert Smith standing in the middle with 
a  paper   in his left hand (so he can read the songtext) and the other hand 
    
        in the pocket of his trouser. What a shock! 
    
This was for me the moment thinking: The Cure 
    isn't the Cure anymore....too old-fashioned, too much the same 
    
        thing again and boring. 
Is this the Cure way to tape a record? Is Robert getting the new Roger Whitaker?
The Cure nowadays doesn't fit Robert Smith. He's too old for the music he makes......or I am.
- Mark 
          
          
I have been a cure fan since 1990 and have been
    coming to this site since well before bloodflowers was released. I 
    
        have never been inspired  to make any 
 contributions   before other than the odd poll! All I can say is this album 
 for    
        me is everything I love about the cure.
Its   fucking   awesome, I dont care what anybody says I'm into my second
  
        straight day of listening and its getting
 better    & better & better & better. 
- Leigh Carmichael 
          
          
I remember when I was 17 years old, ariving in
    my bedroom and playing the brand new LP of the new record I just 
    
        bought, Disintegration. So much pleasure 
to  discover   these new songs, these new words. 
        I really wanted to find again this feeling,
  so  I decided not to hear any song of the Coachella festival. The 
  
        temptation was really big but I’ve been
able   to  resit. 
This morning I run into my favorite music shop 
    and bought both CD (Europeen version 12 songs, and DVD 
        included wich was a surprise) and LP. And
 let’s    go for the trip into the cure (I’m so happy to play a new LP on
my    
        old dusty LP player). I’m really happy to
 descover    this new record, without any idea of what’s inside.
 
I was quite intrigued by the very different reviews
    posted in your web-site. People seems to love it or hate it. It 
    
        seems like « the cure » is not 
 having   unanimous support ! 
And I anderstant this. As someone said before 
    this new album seems to contain the best and the worst music the 
    
        Cure is capable to produce. 
In my point of view there is, hopfully more good work than bad :
1/ lost - love it powerfull, what a voice. the intro could have been longer but... 9/10
2/ labyrinth – love the guitar piece and rob’s 
    voice. I feel really attracted by the lyrics. Say it’s the same you…. 
    
        8.5/10 (whow… it’s becomming bigger as  
  I  listen to it 9.5/10) 
3/ before three – a little bit too obvious for me and I’m not really found of the melody 7/10
4/ truth beauty and goodness – a little something is missing for this song to be good 6.5/10
5/ the end of the world – the only one I had listened
before. Was not my favorite but I changed my mind after 
        seeing the video that I love (It seems to
 have   a lot little clap in this new record !!!!) 7.5/10 
6/ anniversary -  aghhhh the face of the 
    cure that I love. Oppresive, dense. Is the sky becoming dark or is it 
me   ?  
         (better and better as I listen to
it)   12/10   
7/ us or them – still not sure if I like it or
    not. In my opinion us or them is the kind of song you need to listen 
    
        carefuly to have an opinion. I have a good 
 feeling   but need to adopt it.  between 6 and 8/10 
8/ fake – ok don’t by the LP just for this song.
    It would be a waste of money. No emotion, just nothing special, a 
    
        song you will forget  5/10 
 
9/ alt.end – really like it since the first note, simple and effective. The pop song as it should be 8/10
10/ i don’t know what’s going on – sorry but it
doesn’t work for me. The pop song as I don’t like it . and the 
    
        lyrics….weak  5/10 
11/taking off – don’t know what to think about 
    it, music works except the keybords at the begining that I hate, so 
    
        much dated,  but……6/10 
12/never – TY what is this fucking song doing on this album. (but are we talking about a song) 3/10
13/ the promise – uh huh (her) it makes me mouth water 9/10
14/ going nowhere – I’m back in my dark room in
front of my LP player 15 years ago. I’m sad and confused and I 
    
        love that. 10/10 
15/ this morning – what a shame not to have this
    song in the CD. Perfect. Love when robert speak with a really 
   
        muffled voice. 9.5/10 
« the cure » could have been an amazing
    album if the track listing were different (as craig said) I think i’m
going    
        to make my own version of this record 
  One   question stay in my mind : what would have been Ross’s choices ??? 
    
        (this guy is fucking cute) 
        I was quite surprised by the sound wich
is  quite   « dry clean » (not sure we can use this word in that 
occasion    
        but…) much lighter than it as been, and
I  like   it. Robert’s voice is really good but sometimes a little bit 
 
        surexposed. 
        As Tim Pope said one day « the cure
 is  the  most stupid band I know ». And that’s true. They are fucking 
 good,    
        but they make huge mistakes. But I’m not 
going    to stop loving their music for that reason. Let’s say it makes 
   
        them human…. 
        And as Jason Rogers said perfectly well, 
I’ve   changed  since the first time I felt in love with this music, but I’m
  
        still very proud of The Cure. 
Looking forward to hear all these new songs Sunday in the Musilac festival…
- Martin Gauthier 
          
          
         
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