(Note: This interview was done during last year's Christmas tour)
With a new album in the works, a tour making it's way across America,
and Galore, an album of singles chronicling
the last ten years of their career on the shelves, The Cure's main
mope Robert Smith tells Spin Online's Donna
Moran about the making of their new single, what's in store for
the next Cure album, and just what the advantages
of being maniacal are.
"Wrong Number" is the only new song on Galore, and sounds a bit different
than Cure songs of the past. How did
it come together in the studio?
We came up with "Wrong Number" about two months ago in a different
form. We had Adrian Show do a mix for
us and it was a very different thing with backing vocals and a brass
section. The words I really liked and I thought
they worked but I could kind of hear a different song in there.
Instead of the traditional thing where the group
does the song and some one else does the remix, I thought I would
do the remix. So, I contacted Mark Platti,
and it just happened in an instant. We had an idea for a song and
four hours latter it was finished.
You have garnered quite a reputation for being almost counter-fashion.
I'm not even sure it's counter-fashion. I think it's more of a total
disregard for what is conferred to be fashion. I
honestly do laugh at people who determine what is and what isn't
in because when I meet these people, they
haven't got a clue. They look dreadful, they can't string two words
together. I think people are in these positions
by strange quirks of fate. They are all self-elected and I just
don't buy into any of it.
But there's hardly ever an interview or article on the band that
doesn't mention what you're wearing. You're
always being lumped into some fashion statement.
I kind of take it with a pinch of salt. It's generally people who
haven't got anything else to write about. Usually
in an interview, [if] people start following that tack, I stop the
interview because I realize that this there is
nothing of interest to be said n that area. I've said it all so
many times before that it's actually quite dull.
Let's not be dull, then... let's talk more about "Wrong Number."
The song seems almost to have several parts.
Was it written as one song, or as different pieces that melded together?
The lyrics were all written and I had sung it to a completely different
song but the emphasis on "Wrong Number"
was the thing that changed because on the original version, which
was called "Lime Green," the "wrong Number"
part wasn't really pulled out that much. It sort of mutated. There
have been three remixes done as well. The
problem is, I don't think it's going to be commercially available
in America. It's a shame, because the CD single
that is coming out throughout Europe has some really good mixes.
In fact they are like five different songs called
"Wrong Number." [The Cure's record company, Elektra] have this thing
that they don't commercially release
singles unless they are guaranteed, unless it's a proven band, which
apparently we are not anymore. How fickle
life is.
What did you think about before shooting the video for "Wrong Number?"
You used Tim Pope, whom you
haven't worked with since "Friday I'm In Love."
I hadn't sat down with [him] since we did the "Friday I'm In Love
Video" in 1992, so it was another chance
meeting. We just picked up from where we had left off. I just knew
straight away that when we did a new single
this year, I would like Tim to do the video. [The video is] pretty
manic. I don't know how people are going to
react to it. We've already had to make several changes to it because
it contains "disturbing" imagery apparently,
though I see more disturbing imagery on children's television. They
must have got a bunch of strange people
sitting in judgment at various music television station around the
world who see things I can't even see.
Galore has been carefully positioned as a singles collection, and
not a greatest-hits package. Was it easier for
you to just select singles, in the same way you did for Standing
on the Beach?
Not really because the whole project has been really hard for me
to push through. The record companies haven't
really wanted the singles collection. I didn't want a double album
and I didn't want a greatest hits because it's kind
of capitalizing on the group's history and possibly putting a full
stop to it. So the singles [collection] is just a logical
record to release. It follows on from Standing on a Beach, it's
ten more years. It's chronologically sequenced and
you know what it is and people who buy the record will want it or
not.
The Cure's lineup has changed over the years. Does that influence
your songwriting, or how the songs end up
sounding when they're finished?
It does to a degree depending on me really. There have been times
when I have totally ignored who's been in the
group and been totally obnoxious really. The weird thing being that
I've discovered in the last few months that the
group, or at least the people in it presently, actually prefer me
being like that. They like me to have a singularity
of vision so they can just sort of follow along with me. Over the
last few years I've tried to be a little more
democratic and listen more and it hasn't really worked in certain
respects. In retrospect I should of stuck to my
guns a little bit more.
So now you're sticking to your guns?
On this record I'm following my instinct and ignoring everything
and everyone else. It's a different way of working
than I have been used to in the last five or six years. But it's
back to the way it used to be. I know what exactly I
want and I follow it out till it's done. I can imagine it's quite
difficult on the one level for the other guys but like
I've said they really enjoy me having this sense of purpose. They
like it when I get a bit maniacal. I suppose it's
easy than for us to just start fighting each other.
Any ideas for a title for the next album?
I have a working title but I'm not going to tell you what it is.
It's bad luck. I only did that once and I never
finished the album.
How far along are you?
I set up a studio at home, so instead of making demos for the rest
of the band to hear and then going into the
studio to record, I'm actually recording every time I sit down.
So I'm completing songs on my own at home, which
I've never done before. We've done about 40 songs as a group of
which about seven are complete and I'm happy
with. I'm hoping that when we get to twelve we'll be done. But we're
doing two or three songs at a time.
So if you have 40 songs, how do you go about whittling them down?
The problem is that I don't know which ones to discard because the
ones I'm keeping now and working on for the
album are really emotional ones. But there is a whole wealth of
crass dance stuff that I suspect we might release
under a different name [at the] end of next year. In fact that one
will probably do very well and our Cure album
will fail miserably. Such is life.