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Topic: Your thoughts on Robert's new songs "All Of This"
with Blink-182 and "Believe" with Earl Slick.

Listen to "All Of This" at MTV / Download "Believe" from Amazon


"well i've heard the blink 182 album very good a variety of songs not to much the same punk songs like before
but it is great.To tell everyone in here this is not a Cure song this is Robert Smith on his own right? This is his
Solo stuff  not the Cure if it was it would of been credited to the cure But is just Robert. Way to go Robert
beautiful !!!!!! blends in well with the blink singer as well very good indeed!!!! Can't wait ti hear roberts Solo
cause he still sounds great with out the CUre but the Cure are still great too!"

- Douglas Flores


"I just bought the new blink 182 album Yesterday, I have to admit that it came as a very good album, they threw
away their old snotty/punk nose sound and entered a more mature stage of their lives, since they are well going
towards/or are in their 30's I feel that It is proper. The song "all of this" Has to be one of the best songs off the
record and it is curish.

I hope that maybe these Anti-Collab people would agree, but sometimes you cant help judgemental people
who have nothing else better to do than dislike something just because they had a pre meditated theory of a
project to begin with, I wont comment on others negative comments as you could see a while back a go in The
Cure message boards before anyone heard the songs, I guess there are some people who arent true cure fans. I
trust roberts decision on the collab projects. I havent liked all of them but I still respect him and his work enough
to not make any negative comments, it is his life his music deal with it. It seems like people are just trying to
have something to be disgruntled about.

P.S. Alot of people dislike blink 182 for having a pop/punk sound and I think The Cure could of been considered
something like blink was when they came out with 3IB, Japenese whispers. Alot of the music back during that
era were hard/ heavy metal stuff.

- GODEATGODX


"I finally got to hear "All of This" Yesterday afternoon on my way home from work.  The last great radio station
(ie: NOT ClearChannel Owned) FM94.9 played it at about 4:50pm yesterday afternoon here in San Diego.
Halloran started out with, "This band, no NOT The Cure) will be in the studio on Thursday to talk about the new
album, and played All of This right into Feeling This.  They have been playing Feeling This in high rotation, but to
be honest, it doesn't sound complete until you've heard All of This just before it.  I was truly amazed and
impressed, trilled and happy that I actually got to hear it for the first time on the radio of all places.  I imagine
they will play it more often now that they have broken it out.  I certainly hope so.  I think the song is beautiful,
that Blink is an awesome band for taking a step toward the creative side.  It could be risky, their typical fanbase
is generally fickle and adverse to change.  I have always loved Blink, in part because they are a hometown band,
and I think that this is a great direction for them.  I can't wait to hear the whole album."

- Jennifer Hooper


"This is meant to be more a comment on other's comments.

I read things like the way Robert "approches new recording" and "don't like this evolution at all".  Do you just
realise that we are talking about side projects? Do you even know what side project mean? Really. Do you really
think this has anything to do with the new Cure record? You are totally out of line. Beside, I personally think that
both songs, "All of this " and "Believe" are very nice. Actually, they are great, if I consider them just bonus
songs that could never be born and ionstead did, giving me the pleasure of hearing Robert's voice, which always
has a great effect deep in my heart. And it's not like I automaticly like everything that got the name Cure or
Robert Smith on it (don't quiet like Coming Up, A Sign Form God), but as a matter of fact it quite always does
the job. And another thing. I am sure that with such an attitude, even if Robert and the band will make a great
next album, it will never be good enough to Cure fans, because of this "hardest album ever" myth going around.
I hope Robert does exactly what it wants and enjoy, not what people, fans, are waiting for. And if you like it... you
like it. If you don't... you listen back the stuff you did enjoy in the past... New songs won't change the old ones.

It's amazing like we want always more then we deserve. This songs should be considered like presents. It's not
duties. presents you like it and keep it or throw it in the rubbish, but you don't criticize the act of giving present
because you don't lile them.  You want Robert Smith closed in a cage and producing songs you like and can
consume. Is he allowed to have some fun and do whatever it wants? Does he have anything to show? Not to me,
really. He could even make the "stupidest pop album ever" and I would respect his choice, wouldn't probably
listen to that music, but just respect him as a person and an artist.  The best thing is that even the effortless
things he does, are always great. "Yesterday's Gone" is such a great song, and the X MIX is amazing! And it is
probably not all coming form Robert. If I am not wrong (I could be), the music is from Gabrels and Robert Smith,
the lyrics from Robert, and the X-mix (with the drum), I totally don't know, it could be anybody, but the result of
three different peoplke sound great, and I think, if Robert didn't do it, i now didn't have such a great song to
hear. So what's the fuss with perfection?

And really, take it softer on artistic expression - true artistic expression like the one our favorite band provide,
in my opinion - when you don't even know what it is about. Because, yes, even rock is just about expression.
And if you forget that, I don't think you deserve a say.  Cheers, everybody. "

- Gianfry



 

"the blink 182 song is really creative- has a lot of quality that helps represent the song and lyrics with roberts
voice- relays the spirt well... i like it!!!!!!!!!!"

- Katherine Zaleski


"Just yesterday I was browsing thru Swordfish Records in Birmingham (UK) City Ctr and was lucky enough to
hear All of This. I had previously read the feedback (much of it negative) and had developed a little bit of
skepicism.

I have to say, I was actually quite pleased with it.  I think you lot that are saying its rubbish and that Robert has
lost his touch - I say - he's not writting a song for the Cure. He did a brilliant job writting lyrics for BLINK182.
If the song was a cure single, Id be a bit dismayed. But you have to think of Blink's audience who many are at
least 8-10 yrs younger than most Cure fans these days. In spite of that, the lyrics may seem common or
uninspired, but they really reach out well to those who arent old enough to attend university just yet.

The guitar riff are moody, the lyrics arte sung remorsefully - its a great song, and I wouldnt be surprised if it
does quite a lot for both Blink and the cure in the States."

- Steven Lopez


"All Of This:

Quite a surprise given the usual childish nature and sound of Blink 182 !!!  Whether that's indicative of Robert's
involvement (and the suggestion that he had more to do with the song than Blink 182 did..) who knows, but it's a
very very nice track although it isn't a departure by any means given Robert's own musical history.  To be
honest, in my opinion I think it sounds like the sort of moody song that SHOULD have been on The Cure's own
Wild Mood Swings album rather than the stuff that did appear, like Treasure or Bare.

No point commenting on the sound too much cos it just sounds so much like The Cure, although the twin vocal
IS well worth a mention.  To sum up in a basic fashion; if it were a Cure single I would definitely buy it, so what
more of a review do you need?

Believe:

Now then, I'm already familiar with Earl Slick due to his Bowie work of course, but also because of his
involvement with John Lennon - who I am a huge fan of (his solo stuff, not just Beatles).

Slick played on some of Lennon's most famous songs and funnily enough this song really puts me in mind of
the spirit of the Lennon songs Slick played on, and it's good to hear Robert sounding like he's in a bit of a
mischievous mood for once !!!

Compared to the Blink 182 song, this is definitely more of an album track, whereas the Blink track has the
potential of being a single.  To be fair here, Earl Slick is from a different generation to Robert and for god's
sake - he's flipping played on Lennon and Bowie albums !!!  This song was always going to be different and no
doubt Slick probably wasn't aiming it at super-goths and punks, so I think all things considered it's a nice enough
tune and hey it was free from Amazon to boot !!!

- Dave Ace


"review of new tracks - smith - slick - 182

* the "believe" track with earl slick starts with a medium bass and snare tempo. blends in the bass and then
acoustic guitar. In comes some excellent lyrics: "its the attitude i wear  to get my self out" sings robert smith.
the guitar in this track is excellent, rythym and solo. cool fills with effects blend in nicely. it is a cool track.

* the "all of this" track with blink 182 has blink 182 doing all instruments, and have had smith add vocals. i can
hear that b182 has tried to touch the cure sound. i think that great care was taken with the guitar and drums,
especially towards the end of the track, this reminds of an older Cure b-side, "splintered in her head" and "stop
dead". never have i heard mr smith's vocals arranged this way. this is a first and a little to get used to. i think
that this may grow on me in time, i like it already, i think.

lots of collaboration work this year. all sounds really good."

- Robert Eckert


"I find Robert's side projects interesting little ventures, and I am not taking them as any kind of sign as to what
the new Cure album will sound like.

"Believe" sounds like a mellow 80's redux, it makes me think of the music of Sixteen Candles, all slowed and
deepened.  Robert's voice is in fine form, however he does not pull out all the stops like I expect from a Cure
song...but it isn't a Cure song.  Unfortunately, it never seems to build to anything or go anywhere.  Not a terrible
effort, but nothing earth-shattering either.  I give it ** out of *****.

"All of This"  is much better in my opinion.  I am not a Blink 182 fan, actually I am completely neutral about
them as I know hardly any of their work, so I have no preconceived opinion like so many of my friends do (i.e.
they suck).  I think the lyrics of this song are classic Robert.   As with "Believe", it is a theme we have heard
over and again from Robert, but in this case it is much more effectively delivered.  The tune is hookier, more
memorable in every way.  This type of song showcases Robert's mature and natural singing voice, without a lot
of pushing it ~ no screams, or high-pitched yowls, or other Robertish affectations, just him singing straight-forward.
I happen to like this style for him, though others think it boring.  He has always used a lot of genius noodlings
while singing, so it's novel to hear him just sing something without all the flourishes.  I have always thought him
one of the best voices of our time, so able to convey emotion, so excellent at using his voice as an instrument.  If
this song clues some people in to his amazing work, that will be enough to make it all worth it.  I love this song far
more than I expected to, and I give it *** out of *****.

Don't prejudge the new Cure album.  I think these side projects have nothing at all to do with what the Cure are
doing.  Anyone who's seen "The Kiss" live recently knows: THEY KNOW WHAT IT MEANS TO BE HEAVY.
Perhaps Robert is getting out his urges for softer, poppier songs by doing these projects, and saving all the hard,
crunchy, gritty stuff for the Cure.  Time will tell.  Have patience.  You'll need it anyway if you're a Cure fan."

- Shari Welch


"I was kinda disappointed not in the songs but in the feedback from other Cure fans rgarding these songs.  Are
these as good as Disintigration era songs?  No, but they're not even "Cure" songs anyway.  To say the Cure
have not made any good music since 92 is just not true and makes me wonder what some consider "good" music
to be.  Anyways...my thoughts on the recent Robert collaborations are that he is being asked to supply vocals
and /or lyrics to OTHER peoples music.  One needs to keep in mind that he is not in control of what the content
or music is.  The Blink 182 song sounds about what I'd expect a pop punk bands idea of a ballad or sad song to
be.  Did anyone expect Pictures of You?  I'll admit I'm not really familiar with Earl Slick and as such I can't
really tell if the song Believe sounds dull or if it's just how that guys music is suppose to sound.  It's not a very
exciting tune to be sure.  But also consider there will be a new Cure album soon and by having Robert dip his
hands in all types of music and genres, it can only help bring awarness to what The Cure are trying to do
musically.  We as fans do not own robert or his music and unless he writes a song called "F*&^% You Cure
Fans" then I think we should support them and hope that the new album will be a success. Unfortunatly
sometimes when a band has a huge mega hit they seem to fade away with every release afterwards, due in
part to high expectations.  And also we grow up and maybe the newer albums don't effect us the way the earlier
album did because we are at a different place in our lives now.  I think the Trilogy concert was not only a thank
you but perhaps a goodbye to a certain era of the band.  It remains to be seen what the new albums will hold for
us, but I know I'll be buying the new CD and I don't hold any expectations that it will be Disintigration part 2
but I do expect that it will effect me in a whole new and hopefully good way. "

- Tomas


"I just love both songs, in all songs performed by Robert, the less i like is 'wendy time'. Everything else is
more than Ok, even the Forest made by Blank und Jones is cool to me ! Looking forward to buy Blink 182 new
release tomorrow.

Ok now i've bought the Blink album, and i must say it is quite enjoyable, even if i'm not fan of that style at all,
but 'All of this' i think has nothing to do with the rest of the album. I understand that teenagers might like blink
182, it sounds like a good soundtrack for a teen-movie like american pie or other stuff. I don't care much for the
artistic work or creativity or whatever stuff some here might criticize. i personaly really LOVE it, and play it in
loops along with perfect blue sky, and believe :) "

- Bill


"I have a mornig radio show (in guayaquil, ecuador) and i announced this twilight garden, since i was about to
play it, when one of my cohosts said "before we will play all of this by robert and b 182". they know i hate blink.
the song is better than mint car, but that doesn't mean it's ok. the lyrics are horrible and i'd rather have robert
singing with siouxsie or dave gahan or something...."

- Enrique Carrera


"Big, big, big, big,... HUGE dissapointment from my side.

What the hell is happening to Robert? Okay, i only listend to "All Of This", and not "Believe" so far, but truly, i
don't like this evolution at all.

I like Bloodflowers a lot, but from then on... The Cure hasn' t done much noteworthy productions i'm afraid. Cut
Here wasn't really 'it' to my taste, and then i'm not even speaking of 'Just Say Yes' and 'Signal To Noise'.

But let's get back to 'All Of This'. Honestly, when i read the lyrics on CoF, i think my eyes must have grown the
size of footballs. Truly, more cliché you die. Usually, Robert's love songs have something in them, something that
separates them from the rest, that makes them special. But not these lyrics. To put it boldly: they just suck. I
sense something like a lack of originality in his lyrics nowadays. And the music on AOT isn't quite my taste too.
It's just... without any true emotion it seems. Just some easy melancholic sounding chords, but without any real
punch and feeling in them. It just doesn't work. It just sounds like the average commercial b***s*** lovesong.

I expect a lot from The Cure's upcoming album... I truly hope it will bring back the... hum... let's say 'old' Cure,
and i guess everybody of you knows what i'm refering to sound- and lyricallywise. I wonder what Robert really
has in mind when he's saying it's gonna be a 'heavy' album. I really really hope it's gonna be more than just some
bunch of lovesongs without any meaning like, IMHO, 'All Of This', which, still IMHO, isn't heavy at all. It just
doesn't work.

In the mean time... i'm returning to The Mars Volta. But i miss the old Cure though... Well, everything 's got an
end, and you can't have everything!"

- Laurent Mertens



 

"Believe in what?

Blandness is thy middle name. Plodding, talkative doesn't-fit vocal, much better condensed in Fear of Ghosts,
which also had the virtue of having a tune.

This one obviously slipped by the quality-policeman.

Robert's own comments about Bowie's easy spiral into second-rate and resting-on-his-laurels springs to mind.
Guesting is fine, if it's half-way decent, like the Blink tune, but this is drivel by any standards, never mind
Robert's (but these days?)

What's the point of having a C12, if you sing this into it, and ship it off via Pro Tools or whatever, to be quantized
and killed?

Where's the performance? Where's the song? Where's the emotion?

Badly sad."

- Ben Scammell


"Robert sounds dated and lazy with how he approaches new recordings. I don’t like having this opinion, but
from the perspective of an ardent Cure fan of many years, I’ve found myself consistently disappointed with
what he and The Cure have released since 1996. Though I acknowledge these latest tracks are collaborations,
they contain the same floundering lyrical themes, uninspired phrasing, and flat production I found characteristic
of Bloodflowers, the newly recorded singles for Greatest Hits, etc. I would like to see the group turn around with
the upcoming record, but I am increasingly skeptical The Cure can still record albums the way they did pre-1992,
what made them a great band."

- Arunav Sen


"I love "All Of This". I think its a great song. "Believe" on the other hand, is ok. Not great, but ok. "All Of
This" in my opinion is much better."

- Jon Yslas


"This song ("Believe")  reminds me (as it does with many other people @ curiosity) a lot yesterday's gone, and
indeed it is built similarly. it is a good song, but for now nothing more than 'good'. musically, the verse is much
better than the chorus, which for me is too predictable. also, the guitar riff just after the chorus reminds me of a
famous recent song, but i can't recall the name right now. lyrically, maybe i noticed lately he's too much focusing
on this "THE LONGER I STAY THE MORE I SEEM TO LOSE" theme, that feeling of time/life slipping away,
that is present in almost every new song. let's hope in the new album the lyrics are something a little different."

- Pietro Scionti


"The song with Blink 182 is not bad at all, I might have seen see it as a Cure B-Side wms era. "Believe" on
the other hand is just bland bar the lyrics which I think are quite good."

- Davide Consoli


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